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Another poster child for the death penalty

Hypancistrus

Hypancistrus

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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-mattison1118,0,2502214.story

The man who brutally raped and murdered this boy was released in January 2009 after being convicted of 2nd degree murder in 1999. The reason why he was released is because, in the statement of facts read at his conviction, where he confessed to murder in exchange for 2nd and not 1st degree, there were two errors-- first, they said that there were three eyewitnesses, and there were actually only two, and second, the statement said he was arrested with the gun on him, whereas it was actually found about three weeks later.

Yes, that's right. A group that supposedly helps to free "innocent" men got him off because of those two errors.

Keep in mind that they DID eventually find the gun and link it to him and there were still TWO eyewitnesses to the murder.

But the fact that there were errors in wording at his trial set him free.

And now an innocent, decent 15 year old boy with a lot of promise is dead because of it.

But I guess he's just one of the 120 victims that deserve to die in order to ensure that 0 innocent men sit in jail.....
 
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Thats really a shame. It just goes to show, for every well intentioned idea someone comes up with (in this case, the group who works to get innocent people released) there are bureaucratic processes and morons who will combine to strip it of its integrity and functionality. Making an 'abuse proof' policy for anything is impossible...and thats so sad.
 
RosieReal said:
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Thats really a shame. It just goes to show, for every well intentioned idea someone comes up with (in this case, the group who works to get innocent people released) there are bureaucratic processes and morons who will combine to strip it of its integrity and functionality. Making an 'abuse proof' policy for anything is impossible...and thats so sad.
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It just infuriates me that this happens, again and again. A few years back, a man was released for "good behavior" and 10 days later he kidnapped, sexually assaulted and strangled a 10 year old boy.

Literally DAYS after his release, he is snuffing the life out of an innocent child. Do we not OWE it to those 120 future victims of released murderers to make sure that these animals are not released?? If you have the power to save 120 lives at the expense of 1 (even if it is an innocent) isn't it worth it???
 
Jason was killed at his aunt's house on Llewellyn Avenue in East Baltimore -- raped, gagged with a pillowcase, stabbed repeatedly in the head and throat and shoved into an upstairs closet. Police say a family friend, Dante Parrish, who had previously spent 10 years in prison after pleading guilty to second-degree murder in 1999, admitted to killing Jason. Parrish is being held without bail.
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Let him swing by the neck between the heaven and earth until he is dead, dead, dead.
 
vetusvates said:
Let him swing by the neck between the heaven and earth until he is dead, dead, dead.
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For the cold, heartless taking of a life that was more pure than his could ever hope to be. Jaysen was a success story or rising above the hand we are dealt in life-- born into a chaotic neighborhood and family, he was a straight A student at a medical specialty high school who hoped to become a pediatrician. He was never afraid to be who he was, and was a role model to his peers.

Jaysen was worth twenty pieces of trash like the one that stole his life.

God this pisses me off. :angry01:
 
THIS is the reason I am pro-death penalty.
The death penalty might not deter OTHER people from raping and murdering...but if it had been applied in this case, it would have stopped THIS one!
 
starsevol said:
THIS is the reason I am pro-death penalty.
The death penalty might not deter OTHER people from raping and murdering...but if it had been applied in this case, it would have stopped THIS one!
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Agreed, and why I am cautiously in favor of the death penalty. Either this guy would still be in prison while the death penalty appeals happened, or he would have been executed already. Either way, his latest victim wouldn't have been.
 
I have always been Pro death penalty. The problem is I live in a state that doesn't agree with me......grrrrrrrrrrrr.
I wish Michigan would allow the death penalty and get rid of half the inmates we have now. It disgusts me this guy got to finagle his way into a lesser charge, be let out and less then 2 weeks later rape and murder a young boy who had no chance to prove who he could be in life.
 
For 1st degree murder and 1st and 3rd degree CSC cases with undeniable evidence (video or DNA) or a confession, it should be walk out of court into a room and a .45 to the back of the skull. No drawn out appeals process sucking away tax payer money, no housing/food cost. Just a .35 cent FMJ to the skull... quick and clean.

I agree with snakemom. If Michigan wasn't so broke I would wish for us to have the death penalty here. But sadly the death penalty is more expensive that life in prison (ridiculous), and our state can barely fund our schools...
 
I have always been a proponent of the idea that "the punishment should fit the crime." Even more so in heinous cases such as these. It seems like time and time again we are shown that this evil people will never change or be rehabilitated or ever, ever be safe out in society. It saddens me greatly, but I take a little solace in knowing that they will face their greatest judgement when they finally do die.
 
Hypancistrus said:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-mattison1118,0,2502214.story

The man who brutally raped and murdered this boy was released in January 2009 after being convicted of 2nd degree murder in 1999. The reason why he was released is because, in the statement of facts read at his conviction, where he confessed to murder in exchange for 2nd and not 1st degree, there were two errors-- first, they said that there were three eyewitnesses, and there were actually only two, and second, the statement said he was arrested with the gun on him, whereas it was actually found about three weeks later.

Yes, that's right. A group that supposedly helps to free "innocent" men got him off because of those two errors.

Keep in mind that they DID eventually find the gun and link it to him and there were still TWO eyewitnesses to the murder.

But the fact that there were errors in wording at his trial set him free.

And now an innocent, decent 15 year old boy with a lot of promise is dead because of it.

But I guess he's just one of the 120 victims that deserve to die in order to ensure that 0 innocent men sit in jail.....
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I share your frustration!
 
Hypancistrus said:
But I guess he's just one of the 120 victims that deserve to die in order to ensure that 0 innocent men sit in jail.....
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I don't know what the answer is to this one. I am really uncomfortable with the idea that somebody who DIDN'T do a particular crime serve time for it. I am even more uncomfortable with the idea that people get executed for crimes they didn't commit.

But I am MORE uncomfortable that releasing people leads to this kind of outcome. I just don't know what could be done that would balance the needs of innocents with the needs of those who have been arrested to serve time ONLY for the crimes they DID commit.
 
wstphal said:
I don't know what the answer is to this one. I am really uncomfortable with the idea that somebody who DIDN'T do a particular crime serve time for it. I am even more uncomfortable with the idea that people get executed for crimes they didn't commit.

But I am MORE uncomfortable that releasing people leads to this kind of outcome. I just don't know what could be done that would balance the needs of innocents with the needs of those who have been arrested to serve time ONLY for the crimes they DID commit.
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It's like the old question... if you had to choose, would you save one best friend from a burning building or five strangers?

Given the lengthy appeals process, I think we minimize the number of innocent men who die. But take all that away. Think about John Muhammed and Timothy McVeigh, and the guy who shot up Ft. Hood. In the face of overwhelming evidence where we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are guilty....

Dispose of them. They are no good to society. Sometimes you have to cull the herd.

As far as the clown in this story, now he is, to me, the ideal candidate for the death penalty. Prior to this, leave him in prison. But now that he has been out and committed an even more heinous crime... end him. No one should have to suffer his presence ever again.
 
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2004/12/05/man_defends_attacks_on_sex_offenders/

Read that. And I assume that you will all agree with him.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4836246

Murdering people who have made a genuine effort to change their lives, to do what's right sounds like good times, right?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2006/04/20/ns-sex-registry20060420.html

In a world where people are freaking out about the safety of their children, slaughtering everyone who may pose a danger is the only way to make a moral society, right?

Your bloodthirsty need to kill someone because of what they might do belongs in the nations that Conservative America wants to turn to glass. You think you have the moral right to take a life because you believe that person is dangerous? You are more dangerous for all the people who have dedicated their lives to making right the things they have done wrong.

I guess in your eyes there is no redemption. What a dark place to live in.
 
Nova_C said:
I guess in your eyes there is no redemption. What a dark place to live in.
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I think redemption hasn't a thing to do with that place we are currently living. Redemption has something to do with a place I think is imaginary but many think is real and most people feel should have little to do with the policies of our government on this or any other thing. And for someone who believes in redemption, killing a person for his crimes doesn't interfere with it at all.
 
Hypancistrus said:
Given the lengthy appeals process, I think we minimize the number of innocent men who die. But take all that away. Think about John Muhammed and Timothy McVeigh, and the guy who shot up Ft. Hood. In the face of overwhelming evidence where we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are guilty....

As far as the clown in this story, now he is, to me, the ideal candidate for the death penalty. Prior to this, leave him in prison. But now that he has been out and committed an even more heinous crime... end him. No one should have to suffer his presence ever again.
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I think we do pretty well on not executing innocent people too. I just think we need to do an excellent job on that. I'd rather see questionable situations get life without parole, in case indisputable evidence of innocence is found later. For the people we are 100% certain are guilty of premeditated murder(s) I agree. Execution may or may not deter any other criminals but it's guaranteed deterence of the criminal that was executed. If the monster in this case is found guilty, execution is the right answer.
 
Not to step out of line, but I think Nova is talking about "redemption" in the loosest sense of the word. Redeeming one's self to one's particular culture's accepted norms. Which the guy in the OP seemed to have missed the lesson on somewhere while he was busy sodomizing and suffocating children. Or vice versa. Only he knows if necrophilia was a factor. He might not have minded that either way.

Spiritually, in the judaeo-christian sense, I think where a person is (be they pervert, murderer, child-molester, mass-murder, or cooker and eater of body parts, or flayer of women and sewer/wearer of their skins) in the state of their "Redemption" with their "Maker" should be settled, sooner or later, regardless of whether they get the needle, the chair, the gas, the noose, or the judicial iron arbiter of vigilante vigilance.
 
Totally OT, but along the same lines.....I'm absolutely wishing and praying for the DP for the mother of the little girl in NC who was tossed out alongside the highway like a piece of trash. It's unfortunate that she's not from TX. It would be a no brainer. On the flip side, I guess I could pray for her to be tossed into the general pop of the prison. Those women will make HER pray for death.
 
Lori, I am SOOOO with you there. I have been watching that story and it is awful. It has brought tears to my eyes on at least a couple of occasions.
 
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