Pin-stripe Charcoal Motley

I'm starting to really like the pin-striping....kind of grows on you. I've got it in my lava lines, amber lines and phantoms/charcoal lines.

This little feller is het for hypo (phantom).

It's been growing on me too, it gives them more of an individual look. Very cute little one you have there.

Cool. Very nice looking youngster.

Pretty little creature u've got there!

A dumb question: what's this pin-stripe? What are the charachteristic features?

I can see this one's pretty much like motley-stripe (or you might say motley het. stripe) with several broken side lines. Is that it?

marinneli said:

Pretty little creature u've got there!

A dumb question: what's this pin-stripe? What are the charachteristic features?

I can see this one's pretty much like motley-stripe (or you might say motley het. stripe) with several broken side lines. Is that it?

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Some people (myself included) refer to the long stripes in a motley stripe as a pin-stripe motley. Genetically speaking it is a motley.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, pin-stripe and motley stripe are the same thing only motley stripe causes confusion on it's genetics so pin-stripe is the preferred term. It does not mean that it is het stripe but being het stipe does cause a larger percentage of a clutch to be pin-striped.

It does not mean that it is het stripe but being het stipe does cause a larger percentage of a clutch to be pin-striped.

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I've never heard this...is this true?

Very cool snake!

For what I've understood and what is the prevalent opinion in finland (excuse me for not knowing the correct terms in english)...

Motley trait and Stripe trait are in the same locus. In order for a corn to be a true Motley it has to have two motley genes in that locus. And vice versa: a striped corn has two striped genes in that same locus. When a corn has one Motley gene and one Striped gene in that locus, it is a Motley Striped which pattern may vary very much from rather motley-like to rather striped-like.

And I've understood that now these rather stiped-likes are called as pin-stripe?

Anyway. Personally I don't quite understand your way to call these "Motley Stripes" as motley het. stipes, because if being quite correct they're not heterozygotes in the right meaning of the word. In order to be truly a motley het. striped these traits should be independantly in different locus. But the traits are codominant. When a corn is Motley Stripe and has both genes, both of them effect on it's phenotype. The results only vary (like I said) which makes motley stripe clutch more varied than a pure motley or pure stripe clutch. Motley het. Stripe would mean that the animal has two motley genes in motley locus and is that way a pure motley, but then it has one stripe gene in stripe locus and which is why it can produce stripe offspring with a right kind of a mate.

It's the same thing with Amel and Ultra which also are in the same locus. With two amel genes the animal is amelanistic. With two ultra genes it's ultra. But if the animal has one of each genes it's Ultramel as both traits effect on it's phenotype. It's not called as "amel het. ultra" or "ultra het. amel".

Correct me if I'm completely wrong, but that's how things are seen in Finland.