Don't let other peoples opinions of F/T vs Live make you leave the site. There is a lot of knowledge to be gathered here. You should have seen my first thread, it was almost as trainwrecky as yours. It was about Hybrid Corn Snake/Speckled King snakes, and how I wanted to see one. It got heated fast and I almost left the site, but I didn't, and I have learned a lot of useful and important information here.