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Today on "this is not what I expected" from breeding my anery leopard motley to my ultramel charcoal motley... (later I get to play the fun game of 'is that hypo or is that ultramel?')

Well, the first of the motleys from Athael (ultramel charcoal motley het anery) to Pard (anery leopard motley) has pipped. Athael is an excellent classic Motley with a full pattern from head to vent. She was breed to a stripe last year and all her babies were full classic motleys in appearance...

Got better photos of my snakelets to choose keepers from. There's actually 2 charcoals and 3 phantoms. I miscounted. Banded baby is a female and is definitely staying. 4 out of the 5 have eaten. Only holdout is one of the charcoals so far.

How far up is the 1 egg left? If it's up high, I would take her to the vet. She may need a calcium injection (oxytocin doesn't really do squat in reptiles) like my girl did. If it's right at the vent the vet may be able to gently expel it manually. If it's really low like that some people wait a...

Neither OP's snake, nor this picture, are of an okeetee-phase snake. OP's snake is a gorgeous borderless normal masque, which is about as far from an okeetee-phase than a normal can get.

I ended up with 4 charcoal based babies. I didn't pay too close attention and I have either 2 charcoals and 2 phantoms, or 1 charcoal and 3 phantoms. They are all keepers at this time, being het for anery and lavender, and possibly het for motley. Their mother is possible het amel but has not...

Sova's clutch shed out- I have the one teeny normal, some aneries, some very dark ghosts, and 2 moonstones. One of which is kinked. No signs of charcoal, but it's only 9 eggs from a het to het breeding. Talun's clutch has all pipped, even if the last isn't out of the egg yet. Normals, aneries...

Those are most certainly stripes!

Sova's clutch proved very anery-type heavy... 8 of 9 babies are *some* flavor of anerythrism. I think I have either a pair of moonstones or a charcoal lavender and a moonstone, and one baby that might be a carbon? They're currently shedding. All those babies are very small, around 4 grams...

Do you have the two clutches mixed together??? I mean, they'll be easy to tell apart but part of my confusion was a supposed okeetee and a palmetto being from the same clutch

Congrats! I'm still waiting on my clutch from 5/18 What were the parents? Abbott okeetee is a specific lineage- if neither parent was an abbott okeetee then the babies aren't either.

I have a clutch that was laid on 5/17 and has been incubated between 80 and 82 degrees that just started pipping on day 72. I have a clutch that was laid on 5/18, just one day later, placed into the same incubator... and it is currently on day 77 with no pips. It will hatch when it when it hatches.

Congrats!!!

She started laying today. Looks to be a decent number of slugs, similar to what Pard produced with Moose a couple years ago. I think he may not be the most fertile male.

Little 215 there is particularly stunning!

.... I am absolutely purchasing one of the female babies from your clutch, either a partial leopard or a stripey thing. Gods, I really can't wait for Athael to lay her eggs.

Athael has finally had her pre-lay shed! Hopefully I'll have eggs on the ground from her and Pard soon.

These are the half-shelled eggs I had from a clutch in 2022. They formed great veins on the parts that had proper shell, but all these eggs ended up dying

Larune laid all her eggs and had a total of 14. One is only half-shelled though, so I expect that one to die during incubation. That gives me a total of 36 eggs from the first 3 and now I'm just waiting on Athael. She got two good locks with Pard and she gave me 12 eggs last year so I can...

Yeah, we definitely need an actual photo to have any hope of identifying it