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Losing what's left of my mind.......

E. g. guttata

E. g. guttata

Her name was Mary-9/17/05
Alrighty folks. Seeing as how I am in desperate need to actually catch up on my site, I have made up a little chart of the morphs involving only 2 genetic mutations here. (I'll work on three mutations later) If there is anything that I have missed PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me. I need to keep up with this info as much as possible, to make sure that my site is at least 90% correct and up-to-date. I was also looking at a few of these wonderful *grumble* morphs, and wondering if there are any secondary names for them (i.e.- amel anery is a snow, amel charcoal is a blizzard, etc.) and if not, why not get a bunch of pics for some of those lacking names and seeing if it might be worth while to play the name game. After all, how long do most of you think that sunkissed charcoal is going to stay areound ;)?

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Hello,

Excellent worksheet. One missing that I can see at a quick glance.

Plasma - Lavender Bloodred/Diffused.


Best wishes.
 
That is really cool. One thing that I found but I'm not sure on is the Caramel x Ultra you have as Ultra Amber (which would be ultra, caramel and hypo) instead of Ultra Caramel I believe. Not sure if there's another name for that one or not. I also had that Anery Lava is an Ice but not positive on that one either.

~Katie
 
PtDnsr said:
That is really cool. One thing that I found but I'm not sure on is the Caramel x Ultra you have as Ultra Amber (which would be ultra, caramel and hypo) instead of Ultra Caramel I believe. Not sure if there's another name for that one or not. I also had that Anery Lava is an Ice but not positive on that one either.

~Katie
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From what I understand, an ultra amber is the same as an amber, but uses the ultra gene instead of the hypo gene. If this is wrong, then maybe chuck or rich will correct me on this. LMAO
 
Personally, I believe it would be wise to avoid "ghost" or "amber" or "phantom" like the plague when discussing Ultra-based morph combos, or any combo that does not include "homozygous for hypoA" in the mix.

Ultramel Caramel is where Golddust has been used. I believe--since it will not always be clear whether a snake is an Ultra Caramel or an Ultramel Caramel--that eventually the term Golddust will be used to cover both of those genotypes, with possibly "Ultra Caramel" being used only when an individual is positively known as such.

So, long story short (too late) I'd say throw in Golddust for Ultramel caramel, at least.

Also, yep, Ice is the name for Lava Anery. Joe Pierce made a good point last year that "Ice Ghost" will be as bad as "Ultra Amber" and so the word "ghost" has been dropped from the name by a lot of people. :)
 
Well darn. LOL! Still working on the table, and now I'm updating it to show all 2-gene morphs that I am currently unaware of existing in red so that I can make the list for the 3-gene morphs. That list is really really really long
LOL!

Ice Ghost to Ice and Ultra Amber to Ultra Caramel, got it. Any other morphs that I currently do not have liste in there that I need to change from red to black on my home copy????
 
This is nice; great work! I do have one question, though. Why is it that the "calculator" for genetics says amel x charcoal will produce normal het. charcoal amel. Is it because this is a trait the computer can't recognise? This will def. change my purchase list if this is the case!
 
PnyKlr said:
This is nice; great work! I do have one question, though. Why is it that the "calculator" for genetics says amel x charcoal will produce normal het. charcoal amel. Is it because this is a trait the computer can't recognise? This will def. change my purchase list if this is the case!
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The calculator says that because that is what the cross will produce. ;) The same result would be achieved by crossing blizzard X normal. :)

What answer were you expecting? :shrugs:
 
E. g. guttata said:
I was also looking at a few of these wonderful *grumble* morphs, and wondering if there are any secondary names for them (i.e.- amel anery is a snow, amel charcoal is a blizzard, etc.)
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Sorry if I was incorrect, but I took this to mean that amel x snow = blizzard. I read through too quickly. I understand now that it means a snake carrying both amel and snow will appear charcoal (i.e. cross the hatchlings from the amel x snow and get some blizzards)?

Don't mind me, just yet another newbie trying to understand (and getting it wrong in the procress! lol) :sidestep:

P.S. This is really great because I hadn't get realized what crosses made which colors and patterns.
 
PnyKlr said:
Sorry if I was incorrect, but I took this to mean that amel x snow = blizzard. I read through too quickly. I understand now that it means a snake carrying both amel and snow will appear charcoal (i.e. cross the hatchlings from the amel x snow and get some blizzards)?

Don't mind me, just yet another newbie trying to understand (and getting it wrong in the procress! lol) :sidestep:

P.S. This is really great because I hadn't get realized what crosses made which colors and patterns.
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Someone might beat me to this but I'll post it anyway. Snow is the name for a snake with both amel and anery genes. Blizzard is the name for an amel charcoal. If you cross an amel x charcoal you get normal het amel and charcoal. Amel x snow gets amel het anery. Visit Serp's site at www.cornguide.com - it's a great explanation of genetics (or pick up the book which is great too!)

~Katie
 
I'm kinda hoping that a lot of breeder like Rich will jump on this thread to inform me of 2-gene morphs that I'm missing. I have a feeling that there is more to this table than what I have up here already. LMAO!!!
 
Alrighty folks. Here is the "new and improved" chart. Those in red are ones that currently haven't been produced/proven. Sooooo, yeah. ENJOY!

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And here is a chart for morphs homo for three genes (with the exception of stripe mot and ultramel of course). Those in BLUE correspond to the RED in the chart above, and then those in red are the ones that currently haven't been produced/proven yet. Yadda Yadda.

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This shows you all hos much fun I have at home..... LMAO!!
 
Lol :roflmao: know i wanna try and prove some of those :p especially the Christmas ones you have :p
 
E. g. guttata said:
Alrighty folks. Here is the "new and improved" chart. Those in red are ones that currently haven't been produced/proven. Sooooo, yeah. ENJOY!
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You forgot pied-sided and Z. :sidestep:

And here is a chart for morphs homo for three genes (with the exception of stripe mot and ultramel of course).
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Diffused butter = Sulfur. :)

This shows you all hos much fun I have at home..... LMAO!!
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Who you callin a ho? :eek1:
 
:eek1: :eek1: :eek1: :eek1: Good luck to all breeders!!!! Imagine the possibilities. I'll bet that is the first chart of its kind. Pretty darned amazing. :eek1: :eek1: :eek1: :eek1:
 
Serpwidgets said:
You forgot pied-sided and Z. :sidestep:

Diffused butter = Sulfur. :)

Who you callin a ho? :eek1:
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Thanks for the Sulfur tip. I didn't forget pied-sided or Z, I purposely left them off because I was not sure if they were proven to be theri own genes yet. If they are, however, I have some more work to do. LMAO!!!!!!
 
I was confused by the genetic's before.. But now my head hurts worse and my head is spinning.. Fantastic work and valuble to boot..

Regards.. ( looking for the asprin to stop my head from hurting .. )
 
I think I might just get started on a table for 4 mutation morphs. What do y'all think?? This is my way of making sure my site is acurate and up-to-date. I think it's a good idea to get that one out of the way. Next month I'll whip up one on the morphs using 5 mutations! And the month after that 6!
:crazy02: :crazy02: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! :crazy02: :crazy02:
 
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