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How are corns with other snakes?

jeff harker

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My son wants a baby corn and I'd like to get a baby ball python. I want to house them together in the same 20 gal cage. I always had snakes as a boy myself and don't see anything wrong with it. Does anyone see it any differently?
Thanks.
Jeff
 
I completely disagree, and the vast majority of other members would also discourage you from doing this. It's really frowned upon to keep just corns together, let alone two different species. Do a search on Cohabitation and a ton of threads pin-pointing why you should never do this will come up. Many with picture proof.
 
Fine, I'll be helpful as well...

Case and point: the humidity and heat required to keep a ball python healthy would be detrimental, if not fatal, to a corn snake.
 
Have you put a baby corn next to a baby ball??? The ball is likely to mistake the corn for a nice yummy appetitizer.

Snakes are solitary creatures. Two of the same snakes species don't hang out together in the woods except to mate, so I'm curious, why you think two very different species would like to be confined in a very small area together?
 
You're mistaken. There are plenty of things wrong with it. For one, they're two completely different species of animal with completely different environmental requirements. As previously mentioned, the neccesary humidity and heat for a Ball Python would at the very least be detrimental to the cornsnakes health, at the worst, lethal. Not only that, but it is incredibly likely that the Python will eat the cornsnake, and even if it doesn't, imagine the stress the cornsnake would suffer if housed in the same enclosure as a predator. It's like asking if you can house a mouse and a snake in the same enclosure.

Cohabitation is a very tricky thing to practice even with snakes of the SAME species with the SAME requirements. It's nigh impossible with two different species that have such different needs. Not to mention it's irresponsible as a pet owner.

Hope that helps,
Jake
 
That someone is actually considering doing something like this is so far beyond my comprehension that I'm actually struck speechless.


*Please note that due to the recent tone of certain threads on the board, I kindly refrained from using the words "idiotic," "moronic," "asinine" and "troll" in my response, despite the fact that they desperately needed to be there.
 
No need to be rude, guys...shoot, I had the same question when I started out with snakes. =)

The rule of "one snake + one cage" is good husbandry for all species of snakes. Snakes in cohabitation (except for breeding) can lead to numerous problems:

1. Stress. Two or more snakes housed together will be after the best "hunting" spots, the best hiding spots, the best basking spots, etc. Again and again as seen with snakes kept together, one snake will usually be dominate over the other, which can manifest the other snake to go off feed, to be less handle-able and ultimately, can lead to cannibilism. To get rid of the stress of the other snake, one may very likely eat the other, even if they are the same species and size, even if the smaller one eats the bigger one. And many with cannibilism, especially with the smaller eating the larger, it leads to death of the eater (as well as the eatee, obviously).

"But they look happy because they cuddle all the time." This isn't cuddling; it's one snake showing dominance over the other. For example, a good friend of mine purchased an adult pair of Vietnamese Blue Beauties which had been housed together their entire lives. The female, while sweet as can be to her owner, was totally dominant over the male, always making sure some part of her body was on top of the male's head. It looked cute, but my friend has reported that the male, now in his own cage, is finally putting on weight and is obviously getting healthier and happier being on his own.

2. Husbandry problems. In this example, cornsnakes and ball pythons, it will be impossible to provide the correct husbandry, that is humidity and temperature gradients and ranges, required by those species in a single cage. Ball pythons are orginally from tropical western Africa, whereas corns come from a range of the US that is generally much milder. A cage set up for the husbandry requirements of one snake will most likely lead to health issues and death for the other.

For more information on husbandry, please check these sources for good caresheets:
Link to cornsnakes.com cornsnake caresheet
Link to ball-pythons.net ball python caresheet

3. Transmission. Unless you are getting the snakes from absolutely trustworthy breeders, and even then, it is good practice to quarantine all snakes to verify that each animal does not carry any parasites or health problems that can be transmitted. The big one here is mites. I personally experienced mites (may they rot in hell) and had I not quarantined my new animal (from a reputable reptile store) that turned out to have them, the mites may very well have spread to the rest of my snake colony.

Other transmittable cooties can come from wild caught snakes, especially within both the ball python and cornsnake species. It's easier to avoid with separate cages and quarantine procedures.

4. Pregnancy. You may be pretty certain you know the gender of your animals, but until they lock up and one lays eggs, there are still slim chances that the probing or popping was incorrect (although this may be more prevalent among ball pythons, from what I've read, or just people who were bad at sexing, hehe). Anywho, two snakes together can very well lead to breeding, which can lead to a gravid snake and babies. It can happen, as odd the chances would be for a ball and corn to breed, why even make it a remote chance? =)

So, these are the reasons why snake cohabitation is a no-no and why people get so hot under-the-collar about it. You are, of course, welcome to make your own choice, but fellow snake lovers and owners hope that these arguments explain why it's better for "one snake + one cage". =)
 
ya don't do it! your corn will be lunch.. i have two baby corns from the same clutch, and they are both in seperate 20Gl tanks
 
Cassandra. I really appreciate the time you took to explain your answer to my question. It was clear, complete and to the point. I know it would have been much easier and apparently more entertaining just to make some off handed snide comment. Thanks for your time.
The corn will have it's own living space.
Jeff
 
I am glad Jeff that you chose to house them seperatly. Are you still interested in getting the ball python? What kind of cornsnake is it? And have fun! Don't let certain posts discourage you from coming to this site again. It is a wonderfull site full of information and there are always people wanting to help. Good luck!
 
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