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2 to much?

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rockerbaby

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hey,
well i have an amel cornsnake and it is really nice and all and she is so cute.she has only tried to bite me once and that was my falt.well i was thinking about geting a male cornsnake so they could breed but would they fight or hurt erach other should i wait a while till i actually put them together.sorry this question might sound stupid to ya'll but this is my first snake,and i really love her.well some1 reply


thanks
 
You shouldn't keep the two together unless you want the female to breed (I'm not going to get into the housing multiple snakes together thread here-look on the search feature for opinions). She needs to be at least 300 grams or 3/4 lb. and at least 2 years old before you decide to breed. It's probably healthier for her if you wait until she's 3. The males don't have to be as large, as they won't have to have eggs inside them. You don't want to run the risk of egg-binding by breeding too small a female.
 
My .02 says don't even think about breeding her unless she has some worthwhile genes to pass on. If she's just a regular mutt snake with nothing interesting about her genetic makeup then it's just like breeding mutt dogs...might be cute and fun...but there are enough mutt dogs out there already.

BTW, it's '2 too many' not '2 to much'. Many indicates a number and the type of 'to' you use in this situation is the one with 2 'O's'.
 
I don't necessarily agree with you Princess. Who is to say what are valuable genes, and what aren't? If there is a market for amels out there, and I can tell you it's one of the more popular and affordable morphs, who's to say you shouldn't breed. We aren't talking about purebred dogs where there are variations of confirmation and pureness. Corns are corns. Yes, there are a lot of amels as well as snows, blizzards and normals for that matter, but there are also a lot of people who couldn't afford the $250 morph. My first snake was an amel, and I intend to breed him to my aztec Okeetee. There will be people who want the cheaper, but beautiful colored snakes out there and you shouldn't put someone down for it. I would suggest that rockerbaby concentrate on learning more about her(?) snakes before considering another, or breeding, but that will come with time.
 
Meg F I agree with you. What's wrong with someone buying a healthy snakeling that is a common morph for $20 from a small breeder, after all that person might otherwise go to a petco and shell out $60 for the same kind of snake, and it might have health issues. I don't think anyone has any right to say that another person should or should not breed, period.
 
I get your point Meg and agree to some extent but there are so many people out there who think it'd be fun to do some random breeding, without actually doing any homework into the whole process. I once owned a dog who was the result of an owner thinking it would be 'cute' to see what the puppies looked like if she put her curley coat retriever with her border collie....The pup I bought was a lovely dog BUT so many dogs are euthanaised each year because of all of these random breeding attempts. I honestly think some thought (a little more than boy + girl = babbies) should go into the process of producing baby animals of any sort. (the USA statistic I believe is 17 million unwanted dogs euthanaised each year...think about it...)

I went to a helluva-lot of effort to find a butter male to put with my amel het caramel female in order to produce something worthwhile out of the breeding process. I could have just thrown her in with my snow and had all amels het anery and 50% het caramel or with my anery het amel mot and had ½ amels and half regulars...but I thought that if I'm going to the trouble of producing babies, they may as well be more interesting than the run of the mill masses that swamp every reptile show I go to....IMHO
 
Princess, it sounds like you will have some nice snakes, and I do see your point, but I just don't buy the analogy between snakes and dogs for a few reasons. Many purebred dogs are produced by puppy mills, these are producing 'high end' dog morphs that might be more desirable, but if an irresponsible person buys a purebred dog, doesn't spay or neuter it, and produces mutts, the end result is still unwanted mutts at the pound. Also it's a common practice for corn breeders to euthanize or feed their weaker hatchlings to kingsnakes, imagine the uproar if a someone who bred dogs fed their runty pups to other dogs. Finally, new corn snake morphs are a result of breeder experimentation, when's the last time a dog breeder invented a new breed and marketed it? I guess what I'm trying to say is that unless all of us who breed snakes can guarantee what is going to happen down the line with the offspring we produce then maybe none of us should breed snakes. Rockerbaby, good luck whatever you decide to do
 
Rockerbaby, on the issue of housing two together, I agree with not putting two corns together for perminent housing. Even if you have no stress related problems, you would end up with a female bred at too young an age with the potential of egg binding and other problems. So, best to have them seperate.

On the breeding, my opinion is, if you really enjoy your snake and want to get a mate for her for the future, go for it. I feel a nice amel is as good as a nice lavender. After all, they are just color morphs and everyone has their own ideas of what a good looking corn is. Personally, although I have and have seen some outstanding lavenders, I have also seen some lavenders that I wouldn't trade my amel for, same goes with other "cutting edge" morphs. Just not every one of them turns my fancy. A good looking speciman of any morph is good to me, and we all have our own version of what we constitute as good looking. What one person's "space garbage" is, is another person's beloved pet. Heck, I LOVE Doberman's, they are my number one top breed and I will probably always own one till the day I die, but I am not overly fond of the red dobies. That certainly doesn't mean that I think they should be excluded from the breeding program (although it wouldn't hurt my feelings...lol).

So, have fun with your new little girl and I hope you find a nice young male to enjoy with her some day. Good luck. :)
 
Rockerbaby if you in the UK and do breed amel's i would have 1 off you, but saying that i would have any corn that took my fancy.

As to living accomadation it has been debated quite a few time's and it's your choice to make, but please bear in mind the risk's involved, best thing you can do is look Here then make up your mind ask further question's you may have after reading it.
 
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