2007 amel hatclings - cubed?

[batmand]

Hi..
I just hatched these amels, they come from a amel motley x amel stripe breeding..

This one is different than the others in the clutch, so I was wondering if it is a cubed amel??

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I don't know that I'd call it just a Cubed Amel...Maybe Cubed Amel Motley het Stripe (or Cubed Amel Motley-Stripe or Cubed Amel MotleyxStripe...Whatever)...

I've produced Cubed Amel without using Motley, those I was calling Cubed Amel Stripe.

 

[diamondlil]

:cheers: Stunning cubed baby

 

[Duff]

Nice looker, but I wouldn't call it cubed. I think the standards for line-bred looks need to stay fairly strict, otherwise they just become meaningless.

 

[Joejr14]

Nice looker, but I wouldn't call it cubed. I think the standards for line-bred looks need to stay fairly strict, otherwise they just become meaningless.

Since when is 'cubed' a line bred look?

 

[Duff]

Since when is 'cubed' a line bred look?

It's a specific motley look, not a separate gene.

 

[Joejr14]

It's a specific motley look, not a separate gene.

Actually it's a variation of the STRIPE gene, not the motley gene. And I wouldn't consider it to be a line bred look, either.

 

[diamondlil]

I thought 'cube' was a sort of random variation, similar to aztec in that it doesn't follow simple inheritence?

 

[batmand]

Is the cube gene something that it will pass on to future offspring??

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Joe's 100% correct...Cubed is from Stripe...In a clutch of 10 Amel Stripes last season (and neither parent was Cubed, nor were they related) I had two Cubes pop out unexpectedly.

I don't think it's a single gene that causes Cube, I think it's just a variation that pops up (just like you can get perfectly spotted Motleys or stripe looking Motleys).

 

[batmand]

Ok.. I have check all the hatclings one more time and it turns out that 5 off them is stripe/cubed If I keep a pair and breed them together what would the outcome be? Just stripes, or stripes and motleys? Their father is a amel motley..

 

[VinnyJ]

I bred a Striped Ghost male to two unrelated normals het for Anery, Amel, Hypo, and Stripe. I got two Cubed normals, a Cubed Hypo, and a Cubed Ghost. The Ghost didn't have your typical uniform cubes going down the back. The markings were a little like bowties and the belly was pure white. I'm calling it a Cubed corn for lack of a better way to describe it I guess. It's definitely not a Motley.

 

[bribrian]

That one looks like a classic amel cubed from a striped line.
But i do think that you can produce cubed from motleys, take a look at this guy. Mum was an amel cubed/sunspot (striped line) & dad was a butter motley so he should be an amel mot but has the cubed/sunspot markings.What do you think?.....
Sorry for hijacking batmand...

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

All of the offspring are Motley-Stripe (or Motley het Stripe or Motley/Stripe ~ However you want to put it)...This means they are carrying one Allele for Motley & one Allele for Stripe...The Stripe is what is bringing out the Cube (in your example too, bribrian ~ one of the parents is a Stripe ~ however that particular hatchling you posted looks like a Banded Motley to me, not a Cubed)...

So, to answer your question, batmand by crossing siblings from your pairing...You would get Motley, Stripe & Motley-Stripe offspring.

 

[batmand]

Thanks blckkat.. And nice snake Bribrian..!

 

[bribrian]

All of the offspring are Motley-Stripe (or Motley het Stripe or Motley/Stripe ~ However you want to put it)...This means they are carrying one Allele for Motley & one Allele for Stripe...The Stripe is what is bringing out the Cube (in your example too, bribrian ~ one of the parents is a Stripe ~ however that particular hatchling you posted looks like a Banded Motley to me, not a Cubed)...

Yep all offspring in my case would be mot het stripe (as i like to say) & that would make sense with the stripe playing it's part. The only thing i can say about it being a banded mot is that i've never seen banding so wide/far apart & the saddles on banded mots are usually elongated down the side whereas in this one it isn't....

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

It's really difficult for me to explain, more of something you identify through experience. To me, there is an obvious difference between your snake and the first one pictured.

I also found my picture of my Amel Stripe clutch from last year that popped out two Cubes.