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3 New Adults!

HoosierHerper

HoosierHerper

Josh
So I finally convinced Courtney to let me get a couple more Corns ;)
I called back the guy that I bought my hatchlings from and he had 1.2 Adults available for an absolute steal...$80 for all three. PROVEN too....

Now here is my question...I can tell these are healthy snakes, and worth the $80...but I'm wondering what one of them looks like to you guys, morph wise....
The guy I purchased them from breeds Arizona Mountain Kings and has no idea about Corn Snake morphs :)

First up is the male, I believe from looking at pics on Soderberg's site that he is a Sunglow...there is zero black borders, and zero white anywhere on his back...and his eyes appear to be red under his blued caps (getting ready to shed)
What do you think? Sunglow?
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Next is female #1 as we'll call her for now...
I believe she is a Charcoal (again by comparison to Don's pics)
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Lastly is female #2...I am 99% sure she is Creamsicle...your thoughts?
Creams are a mix between corns and rats right?
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I have been out of the game way too long, and feel like a moron, not even able to ID simple morphs...but please give me your opinions!

PS...picking up some end rolls of blank newsprint in just a bit, so they won't have bare floors too long :)
 
Beautiful bunch! However,I have no idea about the morphs!
Glad you found them, I know you were looking last night!
I convinced my hubby to let me get another corn as well! woot woot! (I told him it would be a wonderful birthday present) LOL
 
Went and picked up an end roll of blank news print for $1...and there's still a ton of paper on it...also got a new digital scale....

Weights:
Charcoal female-438g
Cream female-315
Male-262g

Also, got a chance to really check out the male while weighing him...and he Motley marking galore that I didn't notice at first...couldn't get a shot of his back right behind the head, but he has Motley circles about halfway down his body....and also this shot of his belly, which looks identical to a Mot. that I had before....so I know he's Motley...question still exists though, does he look Sunglow to anyone else? Or just Motley?
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I can see belly checks in that ventral shot; he's not a motley. He also only has the connected saddles ("motley circles) for a few inches on his neck.
 
I was under the impression that Mot's belly's were sometimes checkered, sometimes "bleeding color" and sometimes both? And ya, I wasn't sure if the circles were supposed to continue all the way down to be considered Motley...any guesses??

Oh and I got names too...the male is Eddie (after my fav. guitarist), the Charcoal is Nancy, and the Cream is Ann (Ann and Nancy from Heart)....
 
Ok after doing a bunch of reading, checking out some various examples of the morphs in question and some input from a friend, here is what I'm going with:

Eddie : Sunglow
Ann : Creamsicle
Nancy : Anery

Changed Nancy to Anery due to the high amount of yellow on her cheeks and neck...not very visible in the pics above, but I'll try and get a better shot soon :)
 
Your amel could be a sunglow. A sunglow is an amel that is line bred to reduce the white. So you could call it a sunglow. http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/sunglow/ However, it is not a Motley. Motley's do not have any checkers they can have some bleeding but not checkers.

With the anery it could be either anery A or anery B. You would have to test breed him to be 100% that it is a anery b (charcoal) but it does look like it.

I think it would be safe to assume that they last one is a creamsicle.
 
Farmgirl said:
The "sunspot" could also be a Hypo Diffused or an Ultra Sunkissed.

No clue
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No to both, for the following reasons:

He's not a hypo diffused because of the presence of the belly checkers AND the fact that he's clearly an amel of some sort.

He's not an ultra sunkissed because he is once again an amel, and he lacks the defining characteristics of sunkissed.


As to the motley + belly checkers, it can happen but it's usually just a smattering of the checkers. I'll bet his whole belly has them.

This is my own "almost sunglow" Dier. See how he has the saddles connecting even further down his body than your guy does? But you can very clearly see all those lovely belly checkers.

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Thank you! Oh I also found out that both the male and the Anery female are in blue....the guy I got them from called me last night to make sure I knew...the male was easy to tell, but the Anery's eyes had cleared by the time I got home so I had no clue she was getting ready for a shed....Will put up some nice pics when they are both shed :)
 
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