wikkedkornman said:
my point is: Politicians create the war, they should go fight the war that THEY created.
This is absolute nonsense. This is why we have a Military. Why should elected officials be sent off to war?
wikkedkornman said:
Our fine president is just barely a step above being a dictator. when he was gov of texas i saw one of his speeches about "the worst thing we could do as a nation would be to go into other nations and try to americanize them, make them do things our way", but what's he doing now? if you think for 1 split single solitary second that this war has nothing to do with those oil fields over there, you're in dreamland. it's a well known fact that EVERY oil venture that Bush got involved in went belly up. he knew that as long as Saddam was in charge over there, he'd never have access to those oil fields. so now, he gets Saddam out, puts in a Bush approved government.
One step above being a dictator? Wow, you really are clueless. How is Bush a dictator? Please do explain, I'll sit here and await your response.
A Bush approved government? Why did Iraq hold free elections recently? Did Bush somehow make all of those Iraqis vote for his man? Come on dude, either look up your facts better or find another arguement.
Oil? What does Bush's previous ventures have to do with this? If you believe for one single second that there were not ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda then you are clueless. While there might not have been any direct ties between 9/11 and Sadaam/Iraq, there were dealings in the background. This was discussed in the 9/11 report, perhaps you need to read it. If you really think that we went to War in Iraq because of oil, well then sir you are quite clueless and have been watching too much Michael Moore propaganda.
Finally, we are not americanizing Iraq, as you put it. We took out a brutal dictator who mass murdered hundreds of thousands who opposed him. If you believe that is the type of person who should be ruling a country, well then I just don't know.
wikkenkornman said:
i know Saddam was a vicious man, and needed to be outed, but the fact is Bush lied. there never were any weapons of mass destruction, and Saddam hasn't had the means to make any since the gulf war of the early 90's. That came from Bush's own secretary of defense.
Um, there were NEVER any WMD's found? Perhaps you didn't watch the news, but weapons were found. Was an enormous stockpile ever found? No, but that doesn't mean that nothing was found. Numerous sites with plenty of shells were found, but obviously bypassed by the media or simply not remembered since it would thwart people attacking Bush for his use of 'WMD' being a reason for going to war. I am sorry, but too many Governments had the same intel that we did about WMD. Are you telling me that the US, Russia, Great Britain and various other European countries were all wrong? I doubt it. The better explination would be that weapons were moved before the war started. Here's a little excerpt for you:
"In an exclusive interview with The Sunday Telegraph published on January 25, 2004, Dr. David Kay, the former head of the Iraq Survey Group, said there was evidence that unspecified materials had been moved to Syria shortly before the start of the war to overthrow Saddam. "We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved.""
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/
wikkedkornman said:
Look at all the "bally-hoo" over stem cell research. 2/3 of america is for it. out of the 1/3 that aren't, half of them said they'd be ok with it if it was done with embryos that would otherwise be thrown out. this is all statisticly speaking of course. yet , bush says he'll veto any attempts to further stem cell studies. he puts his own beliefs ahead of what's best for the country as a whole. If 2/3 of america is for it, that's the majority, and in a democracy, majority rules. bush just needs to go E.A.D.
i'm done now.
Thankfully you're done. Anymore Bush bashing and I'd just have to sit back and laugh. Let me guess, you own Fahrenheit 9/11 right? I bet you believe that movie is in fact a documentary, and that nothing in that movie is an outright lie, right? Wouldn't surprise me.
The President has veto power. If Congress is in total support, it will be passed. Bush will veto it, and if Congress can pass it with 2/3rd majority then it will become a law. I guess you don't understand how American Government works. We are a Republic, we are not a democracy. We the people do not vote on national laws, we elect people who do that. If so many people are for it, then they need to make that known to the people that they elect. That is how a law will get passed. Polls showing 2/3rds of the American people being for it means absolutely nothing.
All that being said, if you hate MY President so much, MOVE to Canada. I promise we won't miss you.
