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A Couple Quick Newb Questions
- Thread starter Quizzle
- Start date
marike
daydreamer
Hi,
if you want to get a corn snake, I should read this book. All your questions will be answered and it's better to have a book to consult when dealing with a new pet.
http://www.amazon.com/Corn-Snakes-C...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251625559&sr=8-1
You can also use the search function on this forum. See:
a)
There are some methods: counting scales, candling, popping (only hatchlings) and probing. The last two should not be performed by beginners, because you can hurt the snake. The most accurate is probing.
This is informative, too: http://www.cornutopia.com/Corn Utopia on the Web/- Sexing corn snakes - intro to vid clips.htm
b)
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79261&highlight=numbers
c)
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28341
Hope that helps.
Greetings,
marike
if you want to get a corn snake, I should read this book. All your questions will be answered and it's better to have a book to consult when dealing with a new pet.
http://www.amazon.com/Corn-Snakes-C...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251625559&sr=8-1
You can also use the search function on this forum. See:
a)
There are some methods: counting scales, candling, popping (only hatchlings) and probing. The last two should not be performed by beginners, because you can hurt the snake. The most accurate is probing.
This is informative, too: http://www.cornutopia.com/Corn Utopia on the Web/- Sexing corn snakes - intro to vid clips.htm
b)
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79261&highlight=numbers
c)
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28341
Hope that helps.
Greetings,
marike
KJUN
New member
a. Probe or pop is the main RELIABLE methods used. Have an experienced person do it for you - and SHOW you how it is done.
b. Sex. 1.2.3 means 1 boy, 2 girls, and 3 unsexed. 4.5 means 4 boys and 5 girls.
c. You want more FLOOR SPACE. Height is much less important with cornsnakes. Leave the vertical cages at the store.
KJ
b. Sex. 1.2.3 means 1 boy, 2 girls, and 3 unsexed. 4.5 means 4 boys and 5 girls.
c. You want more FLOOR SPACE. Height is much less important with cornsnakes. Leave the vertical cages at the store.
KJ
marike
daydreamer
That's not really true. Corn snakes like climbing, so there should be some branches and some hidings "upstairs" for species-appropriate housing. With too much height there is the risk of injuries, if the snake falls down sometime.
In Germany, the Ministry for Environment had giving this guiding principle for housing corn snakes.
The viv should have a length - depth - height that accords 1x - 0.5x - 1x the body length of the snake. (I hope my description is nearly understandable
) So for a 1.20cm corn you need a viv 120 - 60 -120 cm.Maybe in America there are other guidelines.
marike
daydreamer
KJUN
New member
In Germany, the Ministry for Environment had giving this guiding principle for housing corn snakes.
The viv should have a length - depth - height that accords 1x - 0.5x - 1x the body length of the snake. (I hope my description is nearly understandable
I wasn't referencing laws. I was referencing biology. Cornsnakes do perfectly fine in cages 6" tall - or less- in droves in breeding colonies all over the world. Is this optimal? Who knows, but there is NO PROBLEM caused by it. Saying that a 3 foot corn needs a 3' tall cage is a ludicruous law. That just sounds like another STUPID law made by a politician with NO CLUE about what they are regulating.
If you live in a place with such laws for the AVERAGE keeper, then follow them. Otherwise, cornsnakes don't ever REQUIRE anything over 12"...and even that much is just a "bonus."
(EDIT: the OP is in kalifornia - your laws thankfully don't apply.
)
Hypancistrus
New member
Agree with KJUN. Our corns are either in 6" or roughly 15" tall bins. We are really thinking about going to all 6" bins because very few of ours are using the higher space in the taller bins, and the 6" bins offer slightly more floor space.
Ideally all of our breeder females will eventually be kept in 2' x 2' x 12" cages. But we're not there yet!
Ideally all of our breeder females will eventually be kept in 2' x 2' x 12" cages. But we're not there yet!
KJUN
New member
I see. I took your wording to mean "guidelines," and that has some regulatory meanings here in the US. No worries. My misunderstanding.
Still, those guidelines are NOT in accordance with what the species really seems to need to successfully thrive in captivity.
Nanci
Alien Lover
That's your first post, to insult one of the most experienced snake breeders on this forum? Way to go!
Wait, Raptor Jesus, is it you???
TxMomto4
New member
I am new here, and a new snake owner. From what I have read, KJUN is very knowledgeable and knows what (s)he is talking about. Just because there are differences of opinions does not meant that one is on a "high horse".
TxMomto4
New member
True, but not everyone's personality (Type A, b, etc... lion, beaver, etc) is the same, and sometimes things that are said can be taken in a harsher context that what the poster meant due to the fact that all we can do is READ their words. We can not see posture, hear their voice, and their voice inflections.
Buzzard
two corny
Tall cages or short cages. I think it is more personal preference. I have both for my snakes. I have a living room display that is tall. I put limbs and vines and well as a shelf in the tank. I find if I create more levels it gives me more peace of mind to know that even though the bottom of the cage is smaller, they have several places they can climb. In fact my Anery A (Booger) loves his tree and he is almost always on it. Very rarely do I find him on the ground. I think Robbie had a pic up of his snake room. You can see the different sizes of his enclosures.
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88265&highlight=room+charm
Height is not required for a healthy snake. For larger collections it is harder to house a lot of snakes and keep tabs on everything. Therefore a lot of people have rack systems. Some are really cool. They can be bought or even built.
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88265&highlight=room+charm
Height is not required for a healthy snake. For larger collections it is harder to house a lot of snakes and keep tabs on everything. Therefore a lot of people have rack systems. Some are really cool. They can be bought or even built.