A quick haircut?

[Spork]

SO I was thinking, to release stress on trying to down a hairy rat, what about giving them a little buzz? I think that it would mean less time for the snake to eat and no more messy poop!

 

[tom e]

Sounds like a bigger mess to me! :shrugs: You are talking about shaving dead rats right?
Shaving live can be very complicated... :grin01:

 

[Cat_Eyed_Lady]

if hair ment that big a deal.... why not just breed hairless rats?? :shrugs:

 

[Snake Savvy]

You are talking about shaving dead rats right?

haha, that alone should be enough to end this topic. I don't think the snake minds the hair, so I think shaving it would be more work than its worth.

 

[Spork]

Just so you guys know.... This thread wasn't meant to be serious.

 

[Nanci]

I've heard of hognose keepers doing it, because some believe that eating animals with hair causes fatty liver disease...

Nanci

 

[waldo]

All I can say is...I want pictures :roflmao: :roflmao:

 

[Snake Savvy]

Just so you guys know.... This thread wasn't meant to be serious.

Sorry if we're comming off as mean spirited, it's just kind of a funny concept. No doubt though there are obviouse advantages.

 

[Spork]

I've heard of hognose keepers doing it, because some believe that eating animals with hair causes fatty liver disease...

Nanci

That's an interesting little fact.

 

[_Sam_]

Hmmm

Well hey I know I don't like to eat food with hair in it!

 

[ButtersCorns4life]

...

i do... or do I??? :eek1: :eek1: :eek1:

 

[Vinman]

yo spork, why dont you just buy frozen nude rats or breed nude rats to feed your snakes. sounds like a simple plan rather than stress out the pray item before death.

I dont belive in feeding smaller meals, It dont strech the head out. I been seeing the small head in a lot of CB snakes . In nature a snake has no boundres on what is too bid, either it can fit or not. I'm not saying to feed it items all the time that puts it to it's limit. I think it is neccesery to strech it head out once and a while.

 

[NFS07]

Vin, what do you mean by "small head"? Does feeding it larger meals make the snakes head bigger?

 

[CornNoobie]

Shaving a rat would be far to time consuming and fiddly. Waxing on the other hand would work just fine..... :rofl: :rofl:

 

[Vinman]

In my and some other breeders oppion but you know what they say about oppions everybody got one. I first noticed it in wild snakes. Why were there heads bigger than CB ones. Well first I thought inbreeding . NOPE. I noticed the same with F1 adults . But my animals had normal heads just like the wild ones. I'm a big believer in feeding real big meals and feeding them less often. They build fat cells quicker from the up and down of weight gain and loss . I'm not saying to get them real fat and then skinny, just a little weight gain and loss. So when you want o pump them up for breeding they put on the weight faster. You also produce much stronger animals. The week and sensitive digestive systems cant handle it, as in nature the week get weeded out, as so in my collection. In nature there is nothing holding back a snake to what size meal it can ingest except wither it can fit it down its throat or hold it down till it is digested

This is the problem with color and pattern morphs. No selection for anything else except beauty. Force feed animals only pass there genes on to the next gen. Yea you will get some good feeders out of them but you get better results if you only keep the ones that eat right off the bat I only keep the ones that feed voluntary. I also add wild and F1 or F2 from the wild for vigor but the down side is sometimes you get a lot of non feeders but some times you don't. This is My 2 cents on the matter

 

[Kilala]

Vinman, I respect your opinion. But I'm curious as to how it "stretches" their heads. I wonder if that could hurt them at all. Bu if the snakes in your collection are fine, then it must be working for you. I realize that you can't argue with success. But regarding the feeders/nonfeeders, are you saying that you don't put any effort into your hatchlings? But again, I realize that everyone does things their own way.

 

[Vinman]

Vinman, I respect your opinion. But I'm curious as to how it "stretches" their heads. I wonder if that could hurt them at all. Bu if the snakes in your collection are fine, then it must be working for you. I realize that you can't argue with success. But regarding the feeders/nonfeeders, are you saying that you don't put any effort into your hatchlings? But again, I realize that everyone does things their own way.

Who is standing over them in the wild telling them you cant eat that its too big. There muscles it the head that lets it stretch . Don't stretch the muscles and the head wont expand like one that is used to eating big meals. Also the stretching of the tissue of the skin in the head when it is growing . People tend to baby their herps. Give me a break they are reptiles. Not a dog or a hamster. This is how they evolved to eat in nature to eat what they can even if it might take a week or two to digest

I been breeding for over 20 years. It just makes sense My friend has a line of pure lowland S.C. corns their babies eat like mad . He has been breeding this line for over 15 years. every once and a while adding new blood ,either F1 or F2. When I breed this line to other animals I get good feeding results from the young. Why should I put my self out keeping fussy feeders. and breeding them to more fussy feeders. It will never end. Now if I only keep the ones that feed on their own, then I'm breeding not only for looks but feeding responce. That means more genetic imprinting for feed responce to mice not lizards not like with baby snakes in the wild. Now take it one steep futher keeping only the ones that feed on F.T. pinkies. Live is a lot easer than frozen to get a baby corn to eat . So now I been saving the ones that eat frozen thawed . Yes, I either lost some keepers or F.F. them for resale!!!