Kyle88ta and I went to the Saint Louis show a couple weeks ago and we picked up three snakes, a leucistic black rat that I'm pretty sure wants to kill me and two female non-feeders, a butter and a creamsicle. We knew chances were slim but for $5 and great additions to our collection, we took them home. Now I haven't quit given up on them yet, but its not looking good. The butter has already dropped from 10 grams to 8. My question is, how do you go about culling if it comes to that. We've tried many techniques and I will try force feeding before giving up but I'm losing hope. One is 3 months and one is 2 months how long should I give them before giving up? Thanks.
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A somber question
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jcshayden
Novice Breeder
First off, leucistic snakes are usually very temperamental, i have a leucistic blizzard corn and it tries to attack me every time i come near it. Second, because of the young age of your snakes, they are probably in shock from being moved around so much and may even have a disease of some sort considering the price you obtained them at. They are very young, and force feeding may help them, as the larger they get( not to mention everything must eat) the better they can adapt to changes. You should try to change their cage environment to that of which they were born and if none of that works, they should be taken to a specialist for boarding. Hope this helps!
RobbiesCornField
Bring it on.
Just so your not scared by the previous post, there are non-feeders in many clutches that are NOT diseased. They just don't want to eat, and wind up starving themselves to death. Many breeders will sell non-feeders cheaply, because they don't have the time to work with them and get them feeding.
If it does come around to culling them, put them in the fridge for a few hours first (3 or 4) and then the freezer overnight. The fridge will put them into a deep sleep, and the freezer will finish the process.
If it does come around to culling them, put them in the fridge for a few hours first (3 or 4) and then the freezer overnight. The fridge will put them into a deep sleep, and the freezer will finish the process.
wade
Save The Humans
When to give up? Hard question. Is it a really expensive snake? Do you really love it? All part of the equation. How much effort do you want to put in it? I have lots of snakes. If it is really important to me and I am willing to put in the time and effort I would force feed it. I use a pinkie pump. It will keep them alive as long as you are willing to pump them.
Failing that, sometimes if a snake refuses to feed you can put them into premature brumation. Often they will feed readily in the spring. Not always but often. If they are not so underweight that they die during the winter.
Good luck.
Failing that, sometimes if a snake refuses to feed you can put them into premature brumation. Often they will feed readily in the spring. Not always but often. If they are not so underweight that they die during the winter.
Good luck.
sweet~nichole~marie
Tallulah's Mama
Congrats and good luck! I think it is a good sign they ate something, at least. If anoles do the trick you can induce the anole to bite the pinkie (some snakes like the saliva better than just scent, go figure) and rub the pinkie on the anole and see if they will eat it. I think someone even tried cutting the pinkie open and sticking the anole tail inside of it to get them to eat.
The other thing you can do is take some of the skin from a shed on the anole and stick it to the pinkie you will actually need reds if you can get them...same thing as pinks just what I consider to be the smallest pink you will ever see! Getting that first meal in a difficult feeder is usually the hardest part. Keep us updated!
I bought the two anoles yesterday and froze them. I hated to do it, but I felt the corn's were on borrowed time. I plan on getting them to eat some anole parts for the next month or so to build their weight up. Then I plan to work on scented pinkies. I need to find a local breeder of mice because the last bag of pinks I picked up at a local show are fairly large. But hopefully they will keep eating some and be with us for a long time. Thanks for all the encouragement.