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Amel Female - Regular Amel or A Fire?

pridecity

pridecity

Patients took over asylum
I'm going to be doing a lot of these now that I found my camera's USB cord. I've had these pictures for a while and need confirmation on the morphs of snakes.

The first is an Amel female. At least, I was told it's female. It is a motley. I know Fires, Sunglows, etc. are all amels but I'm interested in knowing if she's a selectively-bred Amel.

I don't think she is a "normal" amel. She's too red for that according to Ian's Viv site. I don't think a Lava is correct as there is no black on her. I don't think a Lavamel either. Too doubtful due to where I got her. Too orange to be a bloodred.

Maybe she's a fire? I'm guessing not because she's not that orange. A hypo amel perhaps? Hard to say without pictures of a motley hypo amel on Ian's site. If she's a selectively-bred snake, then sunglow would be my bet.

What do you think?
 

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She looks like a nice Amel Motley to me. Motley brightens up the colors on most morphs. A Fire is an Amel Bloodred and a Hypo Amel just looks like an Amel...
 
The Amel Motley on Ian's Viv site just isn't close to how she looks though. That's why I wasn't considering it, unless she is a selectively bred amel like a sunglow. I hate mysteries. :p
 
What color are her eyes? If they are pink, then I think she's an amel.

I think she looks like a sunglow motley! She has no white. What does her belly look like? Brilliant white, or lots of red/orange bleeding?
 
Here is my Amel Motley...

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airenlow: Yours just seems so much brighter. She has amel eyes. Her belly is the creamy white typical of motleys but she also has lots of orange freckles. Her belly does darken into orange halfway down her body and after the vent, it is yellow.
 
pridecity said:
She has amel eyes. Her belly is the creamy white typical of motleys but she also has lots of orange freckles. Her belly does darken into orange halfway down her body and after the vent, it is yellow.
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Lots of motleys have freckles on their bellies, or colors "bleeding" into the white.

Amels (regular or any combo) come in many shades and tones of red or orange. It's impossible to look at only a few and predict what the rest look like. There's a lot of variety in any morph, in fact. Think about humans. I have blue eyes. I know lots of people with blue eyes, but none of them are the same shade as mine. I know lots of people with hair that's called "red", but scarely any two have hair the same color.

Corns show the same variety in morphs. That can make things confusing - but it also makes them lots of fun!
 
This is my Amel Mot het Caramel Stripe. My other two amels are normal pattern so I doubt their coloring would help show the variance here. Lovely lil lady isn't she?
 

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Based on both your snake pic and airenlow's, it seems that the saddle markings are more commonly a light orange/yellow color. My snake's is definitely orange, similar to the color of macaroni and cheese.
 
Can't entirely base on mine as she is het caramel which in some snakes enhances the yellow undertones. Hmm, mac and cheese orange. . . wow I would love to see that in person! Sounds like a high yellow sunglow (linebred coloring) Amel to me. Perhaps het caramel? Or just really cool coloring either way that is an Amel.
 
Okay. So between her and the Amel male in my other post, I have a Sunglow motley and a Fire. I wonder their hets and what their babies will look like. Or if I were to breed her to my butter.....

Or eventually my hypo snow... or my hypo motley (but the snow isn't ready to breed for another year and the hypo is just a hatchling)
 
I cant answer your question, unfortunately.
But do you cohabit 2 snakes? or is just for the photo?

BTW nice snakes :)
 
pridecity said:
Okay. So between her and the Amel male in my other post, I have a Sunglow motley and a Fire. I wonder their hets and what their babies will look like. Or if I were to breed her to my butter.....

Or eventually my hypo snow... or my hypo motley (but the snow isn't ready to breed for another year and the hypo is just a hatchling)
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If both have no unknown hets with the fire to sunglow you would get a nice variety of amels het diffused. The fire to Butter would give you nice Amels het Diffused and Caramel. To the hypo Snow you would get Amels het hypo, anery and diffused. To the hypo Mot you would get normals het amel, diffused, hypo and mot. A nice start to a few interesting projects there!

francka said:
I cant answer your question, unfortunately.
But do you cohabit 2 snakes? or is just for the photo?

BTW nice snakes :)
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I saw it mentioned that the photo of the two together was to show the colors better, so I do not think they are always together. A lot of folks put their snakes together during photo shoots. :grin01:
 
Actually, at the moment I have most of my snakes in pairs or groups. The two pictured are also with a pretty snow. The male fire in my other post is alone now because my big guy Grrr kept trying to eat everybody and stressing everyone out. My hatchlings are together, as are my three ball pythons and two sub-adult male corns.

Grrr, my amel Diablo, my male butter, my new candycane (who isn't even in my house), and my ghost Isabella are alone in tanks. It's a long story why some are single and some aren't, but I'll bullet some major points:

*Was going to do rack system, had to move
*Moved, discovered I had mites
*Treating mites
*Trying to figure out rack design so that I can begin in after I pay bills this week
*Will build rack in next few weeks
*After mite treatment, snakes get new homes in rack system.
 
Wow, well at least you have plans to seperate. I hope there are no problems while you work on that. Its always risky for multiples of any kind of animal to live together (sometimes even people lol!) I'm sure you are doing your best for them though :)
 
You're telling me. The only animal I have happy right now is the spider and that's only because I'm not bugging him while he's molting.
 
Normally people would jump all over the fact that you are cohabbing but I think no one has because you realise they are unhappy and working of correcting it. Koodohs to you :)
 
I hadn't noticed you had other threads. . . I hope I wasn't one of the people giving you heck. I mean I know you plan to seperate as soon as you can. . .not sure what else you could do really.
 
Don't recall if you were. I have a bad habit of reading the posts but not who wrote the post. Unless, of course, I am replying back to something someone said directly. If you were, shame on you. I'm just a poor poor new snake person who doesn't know any better. :dgrin::p



Ps - I really hope that came out as funny as I was trying to make it.
 
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