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Amel x Snow

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Benzo48

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What is is called when you mix an amelanistic with a snow? The babies are born looking slightly amel but with a faded pattern that disappears towards the tail. I would post pics but I operate everything on here with an iPhone and it won't allow me to post pics on here. If anyone would be so kind to take a look, please email me at [email protected], I can email pics all day and I have many. They just hatched so I know we're not seeing what they will be as adults. I just want to know if there is a name for this mix. Thanks
 
Amel x Amel+Anery (Snow) will give you all amel babies. If the amel is het for anery, you'll also get some snows.

Baby amels are born with far less color than they have as an adult, usually, and so will appear "faded" until their color matures.
 
I've had my amel, the female, since she was a hatchling. Her saddles and marks were a lot more defined. One of my hatchlings has almost no pattern on have his length towards the tail. Just a little pinkish like a snow hatchling. So I guess I would have to breed a hatchling to the snow male in a couple years to get a chance at getting any solid snows?
 
Pictures would be helpful, and not all amels are created equally. Some are more pale, some are brighter. Some have no borders, some have more border than saddle. Some are also born lacking most of their color and can look entirely like snows when babies. Heck, I have a hypo that looked like an amel when he was born.
 
Pics

I can't post pics in threads from my iPhone. I have a laptop but Internet isn't provided where I live. I posted my email at the beginning of the thread. It would be great if someone with more knowledge of morphs could email me so that I can email them pics.
 
Here are Benzo's photos, looks like amels to me:
 

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Yeah I really appreciate it. Not many people are that nice. I appreciate your info as well. Do amels typically have a fading pattern that fills in with age?
 
There is no such thing as a "typical" amel. :grin01:

Yours have very big borders and small saddles. People tend to call these R/O or "reverse okeetee". They will probably have a lot of white on them when they grow up.

By the way, do these have any pattern on their bellies or are they plain white? If they are plain white they would be motley and it would mean your parent snakes are both het motley. :D
 
Also if you save one of these back to breed to your snow you will have a shot at snows:

Male: Snow ( Amel, Anery )

Female: Amel het Anery

Phenotype:
1 / 2 Amel het Anery
1 / 2 Snow ( Amel, Anery )

Genotype:
1 / 2 Amel het Anery
1 / 2 Amel, Anery
 
If your babies turn out to be motley, saving back a female to breed to your male snow would look like this:

Male: Snow ( Amel, Anery ) het Motley

Female: Amel, Motley het Anery

Phenotype:
1 / 4 Amel het Anery, Motley
1 / 4 Amel, Motley het Anery
1 / 4 Snow ( Amel, Anery ) het Motley
1 / 4 Snow, Motley ( Amel, Anery, Motley )

Genotype:
1 / 4 Amel het Anery, Motley
1 / 4 Amel, Motley het Anery
1 / 4 Amel, Anery het Motley
1 / 4 Amel, Anery, Motley
 
You're excellent with the genetics. All I know is hetero and homo. Really though, I've been learning genetics but I can see that I can learn a lot from you. Since you're from louisiana too, do you ever go herping? I do pretty much daily but I work outdoors 40 hours a week.
 
Also I examined thier bellies. 2 have a few light off-white belly scales closer towards thier heads. The other 2 have solid white bellies.
 
They all look like amels to me from the top shots. My little amel was way duller in color when I first got her in February than she is now. And with each shed she keeps getting brighter.
 
I don't have a lot of time go go herping much, mainly I look for snakes and turtles on the golf course occasionally!

See if you can get a picture of the whitest belly you have ... put him in a clear bowl and take a picture through the bottom. It SOUNDS like you have motleys.
 
I have a correction to
make. The father of the hatchlings is s blizzard, not snow. Does that change anything?
 
Benzo48 said:
I have a correction to
make. The father of the hatchlings is s blizzard, not snow. Does that change anything?
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Phenotype...no, all are still amels.

Genotype...yes, all are now amel het charcoal rather than amel het anery.

As far as the white belly's, take some photos for us, if you have motleys that would mean both parents were het motley.
 
Oh yes must see photos of the belly! My Scarlet was a very PINK baby. He really got his red in the saddles at about 18 inches and the orange in the background closer to 22 inches. If memory serves me right that is lol! I love baby amels so pretty, wish they would stay that way.
 
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