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ANERY GHOST OR NOT that is the question!

JAMIE PILGRIM

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This is BOO ! Told she was a ghost on sale, she has no yellow under chin (as yet) but is she a ghost? she could well be a charcoal !!!! let me know....
JAMIE PILGRIM 'ENGLAND.
 

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I see in the title of your post you said anery ghost...

well...a ghost IS already a term used for hypo anery, so you wouldn't have to say anery ghost. As usually ghost is implied to be a hypo anery.

Anyhow, that said, if it was sold to you as a ghost, first ask yourself, from whom? A pet store? Is the store reputable? Ghost corns are rather common and your corn does look like a ghost corn. The trouble is Anerys aren't always so dark, and ghosts aren't always so light! I have a dark ghost corn that you'd swear was an anery. Where I also have a male Anery that is so light you'd think he was a ghost. Only breeding trials have proven to me what they really are.

Either way, very pretty little corn! Enjoy!
 
looks like a anery to me, She doesn't appear to have the blue eyebrows. Also in the UK if it is priced as a ghost it will not be a Charcoal, i am guessing it is in a pet shop? if so then i am sure it is a anery.
 
just to add, you stated correctly, no yellow...YET... Often they don't get yellow till later on. But they can in fact not get much yellow it all. It varies bloodline to bloodline.
 
Hi Russell,
Thanks, so if she actually developes the yellow pigmant later on does this count her out as being a corn then? She would then be a anery type a wouldnt she, and am i right in saying the charcoal are classed as anery type b? im confussed to what an actuall ghost strain is, and why it would be breed in ????
Jamie Pilgrim. England
 
OOPS! I see I haven't done anything but confuse you! I'm sorry! An Anery is simply a corn morph that has a lack of any red but still shows the blacks and yellows present in all corns. So she could have various amounts of yellow show up as she ages. The yellow doesn't mean she is or isn't an Anery morph. And Charcoals have been proven to have yellow, although there are more of them that don't show yellow. The yellow that DOES show up in Charcoals is usually a lighter lemony yellow than the mustard yellow that shows up in Anery AND Ghost corns.

Ghost corn is still an Anery corn, but now it also has a second morph gene at work, called Hypomelanistic that is showing. So they call this Hypomelanistic Anerythristic corn a Ghost corn. A lot easier to call a Hypomelanistic Anerythristic a Ghost. Hope that helps! All these terms are used as morph or gene names for Cornsnakes. Though you will certainly see the same terms used in other species of snakes, but here we are talking just corn snakes.

And yes, Anery A, is the original Anery. Anery B was a term used for Charcoal corn before Charcoal became the name used for Anery B. If you can get a copy of the Cornsnake Morph Guide at cornguide.com it will help you out greatly in understanding the color morphs found in cornsnakes. Hope this helps!
 
reply to russell

thanks mate alot clearer, with it now, are you going to be on line later? need to pick your brains over sexing corns!!!! our lass is moaning at me to sit down and have some food, so i will log on in an hour or so, again thanks,
Jamie Pilgrim. England
 

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I'm laughing right now, because, well, I'll just say I am NOT the best at sight sexing. I can pop baby corns all day long and be right 99% of the time. But once they get some age and size, I make more mistakes! For example, just yesterday I was cleaning all the snakes and I put the Hypo Okeetees back together and lo and behold...the supposed female starts riding the supposed male... And this supposed female sticks out her I mean, his hemipenes into the male, I mean, apparently now female... *sigh*

I had bought this pair back from a friend and assumed he had them correctly labeled on the containers... At LEAST they are a pair...just somehow he must have gotten the labels mixed up on them over the years since I had sold them to him as a pair. Oh well! I'm not perfect by any means! But it sure was a surprise for me!
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REPLY TO RUSSELL

Hi mate, just been killing it with laughter at your reply, thats just typical isn't it? still havin a giggle at the thought of watching in "horror" as your "stud" of a snake is bent over taking a lenth lol lol

Theres no rush in getting mine sexed as yet, one of my boys works in one of the pet shops up my end "just deals in the reptiles there" but hes not 100 % on sexing corns.

soz i didnt get back to you straight away, been having a "domestic" with my girl thats why im still up at this hour (2 am ) your 6 hours in front over there i think, been thinking of getting rid of my nice viv set ups and going back to the plastic container draw system with the basic aspen and toilet roll hide, it just seems more problems arise from all the stuff in the vivs, my boy who i mentioned has around 22 corns he keeps his proper basic like that and they flurish, really nice conditioned snakes.

anyway rusell better get my arse to bed (our lass will be sat up waiting) and then i'll get more ear fulls when shes tired for work in morning !!!!!
thanks JAMIE P. U.K.
 

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