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Anery to Golddust pairing (Bred back in)

Sindrik8x

Sindrik8x

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All,

Hi. It's been a while, likely a couple months since you've seen posts from me. I've been busy with life in general and then had some video game releases and MMO's keep me away for a while.

But, I am beginning to start researching for breeding late fall 2014, early spring 2015 pending on my current two snakes maturity levels (at the time) and my confidence/comfort level with breeding.

I am just curious as to make sure I am understanding basics here as to what my current pairing will produce. And please, before posting, understand that I am not in this for the money, I am not in this to make crazy and unique morphs up front, I am more so into it for learning and as a hobby with my son in the upcoming years as he is very into the snakes like me. Yes, I am prepared to take on the normals and the less desirable morphs and I also know stores that will take them off my hands (in the region) that have sellers I trust.

So, I have a golddust bloodred male and an anery female currently. Both with no known hets that I was told of. Based off what I know from my reading and research, initial trials and breeding pairings will not result in anything other than normal corns that are possible het for anery, diffused, ultramel and caramel. Then bred back in (multiple pairings) I can begin to confirm % of hets for each.

That all being said (if my understandings are correct based on the genes I have at my disposal), I can ultimately at best expect to hatch out over the course of a very prolonged time if I stick with it and keep at the trials:

Amels
Aneries
Avalanches?!?!?
Butters?!?!?
Caramels
Diffused/Bloodreds
Fires?!?!?
Golddusts
Granites
Normals
Snows
Sulfurs?!?!?
Ultras
Ultra Caramels
Ultramels
Ultramel Aneries

I may be going way above and beyond and misinterpreting, and I doubt I'll ever get as far as to see half of these come to fruition. But, I'm just curious as to if I am correct with the genes I am dealing with that I KNOW of and what they COULD do in the future.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to look at my post. I'll be checking back in and trying to take in as much as I can from this post, learning about the two snakes and the genes they have as much as possible over the upcoming months. Hopefully that and the actual breeding info (the how to's and what to do's, what NOT to do's, etc.) will help me begin and have success with my projects over the next years.

Take care guys.
 
"...het for anery, diffused, ultramel and caramel. Then bred back in (multiple pairings) I can begin to confirm % of hets for each..."

The first generation kids will be het amel or ultra, with no way of knowing til you breed them. Your Goldust technically is het amel and ultra, which results in the visual "ultramel"...Ultramel just doesn't totally play by the rules ;)
 
Sindrik8x said:
So, I have a golddust bloodred male and an anery female currently. Both with no known hets that I was told of. Based off what I know from my reading and research, initial trials and breeding pairings will not result in anything other than normal corns that are possible het for anery, diffused, ultramel and caramel. Then bred back in (multiple pairings) I can begin to confirm % of hets for each.
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Not quite. Because the male is homozygous caramel and diffused, and the female is homozygous anery, ALL the babies will be 100% het for anery, caramel diffused. In the first generation absolutely every baby produced by the two adults you have will carry those hets. Additionally, 50% of them will be het for amel and 50% will be het for ultra. Each animal will have one or the other.
 
So shiari, knowing this, if I breed one of the first babies to another one, I will technically have a percentage that could/would hatch out granite first gen yes? Because since they would all be 100% het for anery and diffused, a baby from that clutch could inherit both genes, yes?
 
Yup! You'd have a 1 in 16 chance of hatching out a baby with both traits. Ignoring the amel/ultra for a moment, you would have a 1 in 4 chance of hatching aneries, or diffused, or caramels out of any given egg. 1 in 16 is granites, anery-caramels, and caramel diffused. 1 in 64 is hitting an anery-caramel-diffused.
 
Are there any pics out there of these Anery Caramel Diffused? I can't find a one. I'd imagine that they look pretty cool with the caramel coloring on the bottom and anery tones blending together.

Honestly, granites were a goal of mine as I love them and figure it would be cool to own a couple, let alone a few of the other cool possibles such as the Snows, snakes with the ultra gene, like the Ultramel Bloods and the Ultramel Aneries.

I think the next snake purchase I'm going to do is something with the stripe gene to add that in the mix later. Otherwise though, I do want a Miami, just to have one. Preferably a Tessera. But, that's aside from breeding. I think it may be my absolute favorite morph.
 
An Anery Caramel Diffused will look just like a Granite (Anery Diffused), since Anery will mask Caramel.
 
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