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Anery Variations

Susan

Susan

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Just an inquiry...has anyone worked on, or is currently working on, trying to produce an equivalent variation to the candycane amels with either anery morph? i.e. - black/brown saddles on a white ground color?
 
I have no idea if anybody is trying it, but if it works, that would be one hell of a nice snake!

I wonder what they would call it :shrugs:
 
I've actually thought of that too. To breed anery into a dark saddled miami line to aim for very white backgrounds and dark as possible saddles. I have a female anery from 04 with very solid saddles but a regular looking base colour that I think would lend her genes to this project well. I don't have a miami male unfortunately so the project is just a hypothetical for the moment.
 
Ghosts or Lavs might be a better choice? I would think it would be hard to get dark black or brown with white? You never know!
 
Yeah but if I went for a ghost I'd have the washed out saddles when the aim is solid saddles on a white background. I'm not so up on lavander yet but I think that'd give the same issues.
 
Come to think of it I'd be better off starting with anery B stock to eliminate as much yellowing as possible???
 
Anery B doesn't necessarily eliminate the yellow...and you will want to start with the best animals for the traits you are trying to accomplish...line breeding can be a very VERY long process...especially when these specific traits might be hard to nail down.
 
I thnk the hard part about that project is the fact that over time, melanin starts building up, especially in the back half of the snake. The reason the candycane project worked is because the only "creeping" color was yellow, and that took only a few months to start showing. This project would require keeping all the best looking snakes until they were full adults and finding the best of the best to try to breed so the melanin doesn't build up as much. Unfortunately, I think that the saddles for these snakes would suffer a little as well and only be brown instead of the deep black. Not completely sure of this, so I would ask serp about it.
 
Yeah, the subject of doing an "oreo" corn project has been brought up here and there over the last few years. I think it'd be very cool, but I'm not planning any such project myself. Hurley's charcoal, Mary, would be a good start though. :)
 
Serpwidgets said:
Yeah, the subject of doing an "oreo" corn project
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And now it is named...if and when it ever happens...serp has already 'published' the name...

Would be a very interesting project...
Something to consider in a few years...
 
A new project for someone to try....unfortunately I don't have anything to start with...but this does sound like it would be a pretty amazing looking snake...I know SOMEONE out there has a nice pair that they can try this with...like was said..it may take a while but the end results would be worth it...that is how we ended up with all the GORGEOUS morphs we have now, right? :)
 
Alias47 said:
And now it is named...if and when it ever happens...serp has already 'published' the name...
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LMAO, great, I get credit for everything. That was the name several people were calling the project, at least "a couple two tree" years ago anyway.
 
I don't think we have the mutant genes to produce an "oreo" corn easily. In the candycane, amelanistic gets rid of melanin all over the body, and Miami gets rid of the red pigment everywhere except the dorsal blotches. And there is some selective breeding for a really clean-looking snake. In the proposed oreo corn, anerythristic or charcoal could get rid of the red. but there is no parallel to Miami that would restrict the melanin to just the dorsal blotches. It is possible that selective breeding could eventually produce something approximating the oreo corn, but I don't think anything less than a couple of dozen generations would do the trick. and that requires an amount of determination that most of us don't have. Sorry to rain on the parade. :sidestep:
 
Good points there Paul. It might take a while but I'm sure it'll happen. If you gave a cornsnkae hobbyist a crystal ball 20 years ago and showed them all the variety we have today they would have thought they were on acid!
 
I had thought about trying to do this myself. I figure even if you fall short, you will still have some nice high contrast anerys.
 
Oreo corn eh? Why is it they always get named after food? I get so hungry on this site, it's weird.
 
I can't remember specifically where he posted it, but I believe I saw a pic of a charcoal corn from Rich a year or two ago that met, or was close to, what your looking for. Jog any memories Rich? I'll try to search for that pic, but can't guarantee anything.

D80
 
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