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Another idiot causes the death...

Cflaguy

Old School Snakeman
of an alligator. Right here in Lakeland Fl.
Lake Parker is in the middle of Lakeland and we have counted about 6 different gators. I've been here for 2 years and no incidents had occurred. Can't say about before.
But last night (4 A.M.) some idiot on crack stripped down to his birthday suit and decided to go swimming. Four Polk County Deputies rescued (unfortunately) the guy with an gator hanging on his arm. Almost chewed it off. There have been conflicting reports on the size of the gator. As usual, they go out and kill the first gator they come to and everybody feels better. In this case, the big fellow. Over 11ft. We saw him often just paddling around minding his own business. He had more than likely been there anywhere from 60-90 years. If he had been a problem before he wouldn't have been there right?
 
Ohh my gosh that is awful. Why would someone do something that stupid?(well maybe the crack had something to do with that). Wish that alligator got more than his arm.
 
Oh god, that's just awful. I mean, the guy deserved it. First of all, crack is illegal. And I would think that even with the crack, he would still have enough of his brain left over to think "Hm... Alligators. I don't think I should swim in there."

Like Tricksterpup said, it's survival of the fittest, baby.
 
When you're running around naked on drugs, I don't think Gator attack is on your mind. It got more than his arm. Chewed one almost off, broke the other one and chewed on the guys butt and the back of his leg. Poor gator would probably die from the toxic waste in this guys system. Too bad it didn't get to finish the job. If I were the cops, I would have just acted to scared to go in there or pretend I couldn't get the guy out of it's mouth.....
 
I see the guy...

often. Lisa calls him a waste of skin; thin the herd if you will. I ran him out of the mall and her store in particular several times.
I may ruffle some feathers here but my belief is my belief. He chose to be homeless. You can't go to that area of town without 5 or 6 guys acosting you at every stoplight. I believe in helping folks who are down on their luck sure. This guy has been offered many a job. Turns them down. If people choose to live like trolls under a bridge, so be it. I would see him at the labor pool line. Get enough to score, sleep in the bushes.
I feel bad for the gator. Like I said, been around 60-90 years and never bothered a soul.
The real shame of course is they go grab any gator and kill it. This gator was big. He was more than capable of just chewing on this clown.
 
So, Cflaguy, you've seen this guy (the one who got chewed up) before? Well, if you see him again, tell him he deserved it, and that he should have been chewed up completely for what he ended up causing the other gator.
 
so stupid.

i never understood why everyone's first thing to do after someone gets attacked by an animal is to kill the animal.
i've heard of cases where people have trespassed into other people's backyards...kids who stick their fingers through chain link fences or climb the fence into a yard and get attacked by the dog there. and then the dog gets punished for protecting its yard...usually the sentence is death.
it just doesnt make sense to me.
i was taught not to swim in the lakes. see gator, no swim! simple as that. and you dont climb fences or stick your fingers through a fence to pet the doggy. doggy has teeth doggy will bite.
so many gators, dogs and snakes get killed just because of someone else's stupidity.
it just really ticks me off.
 
People have the idea that they own every place. If someone goes way out into the middle of nowhere and is attacked by a moutain lion the first thing they want is for the cat to die for its audacity. They don't bother to think that maybe they had wandered into the cougar's territory. I bet its different when it happens to you, so I really tried to think about what I would want done if I were mauled by a wild animal. First, I go out of my way to keep myself out of a situation where I might meet a dangerous animal, but if I was attacked by one I really don't think I would want revenge on that animal.
I remember I was watching a show once where they were talking about how in some city in Florida they go out and try to catch alligators over a certain number of feet in length and euthanize them. I think it was on that Animal Cops show on Animal Planet.
The vast majority of people are irritating morons, I guess that's the bottom line.
 
I know it's a corn snake forum and I know I should expect everyone to be supportive of the welfare of our native fauna, but people, we're talking about a fellow human being. I don't think they should have killed the gator, he had already let go of the guy.

Hopefully, none of you has or will lose a member of your family to drug addiction. It is an experience that I would not wish on my worst enemy. I understand the flippant nature of this site, but I do hope that none of you out there truly think that any human being deserves to die by alligator attack.

I like to think I am a difficult person to misunderstand, so I'll state this as concisely as I can. No animal's life is worth sacrificing a human life, any human life, no matter how unworthy you think that human life. There are few black and white things in life, but, ladies and gents, that's one of 'em.
 
bill38112 said:
I know it's a corn snake forum and I know I should expect everyone to be supportive of the welfare of our native fauna, but people, we're talking about a fellow human being. I don't think they should have killed the gator, he had already let go of the guy.

Hopefully, none of you has or will lose a member of your family to drug addiction. It is an experience that I would not wish on my worst enemy. I understand the flippant nature of this site, but I do hope that none of you out there truly think that any human being deserves to die by alligator attack.

I like to think I am a difficult person to misunderstand, so I'll state this as concisely as I can. No animal's life is worth sacrificing a human life, any human life, no matter how unworthy you think that human life. There are few black and white things in life, but, ladies and gents, that's one of 'em.

You are totally right, I just think everyone including me gets a little too worked up when we hear that a persons stupidity leads to an animals death. But 100% agree with you.
 
I think originally he was upset that it wasn't as if they went out and killed the alligator. They killed the first and biggest alligator they could find. I believe in killing an animal that has attacked a person. Especially if you catch it in the act, but going out and killing just any animal that happens to be the same species as the offending creature is wrong. We should realize that these animals are doing what they do naturally in their own natural habitat. It's not like the alligator came into the guy's yard and attacked him. I think most of the people on here feel bad when people are attacked by animals, but some of them probably just feel worse for an alligator being killed just because it happens to be an alligator and it might sometime decide to bite someone swimming in its territory.
 
Then why would you approve of killing an animal that has killed a person if they are just doing what a normal wild animal would do? We're not talking a dog or something. This guy went into the alligator's territory, naked, acting like prey and he got eaten. And that gator or some other one died for doing what a gator does.
 
I don't think that just because an animal killed someone means that it should be killed. It's my belief that the only time that is justified is if it's super aggresive and repeatedly attacks people, or if you're trying to save someone and the only option is to kill it.

*sigh* I really don't see why people just don't use the common sense that they were born (at least, supposed to be) with. I've never gone to Florida in my life, but I would think "Hm. Gator. They have big teeth. I think that's a BAD idea to go in there with it." One would hope that people have that common sense. But apparenly not.
 
That's horrible! That gator had much more right to life than that piece of trash! Becoming food for a superior creature may have been his highest achievement anyway.

I agree, people suck! :(
 
bill38112 said:
I know it's a corn snake forum and I know I should expect everyone to be supportive of the welfare of our native fauna, but people, we're talking about a fellow human being. I don't think they should have killed the gator, he had already let go of the guy.

Hopefully, none of you has or will lose a member of your family to drug addiction. It is an experience that I would not wish on my worst enemy. I understand the flippant nature of this site, but I do hope that none of you out there truly think that any human being deserves to die by alligator attack.

I like to think I am a difficult person to misunderstand, so I'll state this as concisely as I can. No animal's life is worth sacrificing a human life, any human life, no matter how unworthy you think that human life. There are few black and white things in life, but, ladies and gents, that's one of 'em.

I would agree with you. I don't think the gator should have been killed and I think the guy who got attacked acted like an idiot, but he did not deserve to be mauled. Who are we to hand out sentence? In my honest opinion it's ridiculous to suggest the guy deserved to be ripped to pieces or that the alligator was more important.
 
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