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Apology of sorts

Adui

New member
Greetings,

I wanted to apologise for coming in here and immediately attacking the flamers and others that I considered bad taste posts. I still don't agree with people flaming anyone who has the guts to come in here and admit they got stupid and need help, however I have no right to join up and then immediately assume you all should follow my personal code of conduct just because I am here.

Soo, while I humbly request you do think about your posts before you flame, I will do my best to hold my cyber tongue and not say anything when you feel the need to flame. It is not my place to police the forum. To attempt to do that is just as bad form as the flames I am trying to extinguish.
 
Well, I've never flamed anyone.....YET (Your Entitled To), but I'll accept your apology like I'm getting a ''Get Out Of Jail Free'' card for future use.


And between you and me, the ones that do are really just a bunch of ruff tuff creampuffs once you get to know them...:grin01:

Welcome to the forums newbee...:nyah:
 
I think I too was too quick to judge some responses when I first joined. Now I'm realising that when people ask for help in a reasonable manner, explaining their particular problem in understandable form, detailing what they've tried themselves to help the situation......and also demonstrating some kind of learning process over time, there are plenty of people on here only too willing to give up their time and effort to help. For no reason other than wanting to help others in the hobby and because they care about the welfare of snakes belonging to others.
What I saw as 'bad temper' and nasty replies at first, I now almost always see as response to a poster who hasn't and will not do their homework, who is often ignoring good advice already given, and also who is causing problems for their snakes through ignorance, neglect or wrong-headedness.
 
This sounds sensible, especially the part about not expecting others to follow your preferred code of conduct. However, you're entitled to your opinions too! Don't hesitate to politely express them. :cheers:
 
I don't think there's a need to apologise for expressing yourself here. The members on this forum tend to keep the peace pretty well compared to other forums.

It gets extremely tiresome to explain the same things to people day in day out and to listen to the blatant (preventable and repetitive) mistakes that people make and not speak out. I don't go into Chat so I don't know some of the history about people's habits (no one in particular), but if a few of the established members are harsh on them, there's a reason. I try to be as tactful as possible or just keep my mouth shut. I'm glad there are those who are willing to say what they're thinking. Sometimes it needs to be said. A few go overboard. LOL

I don't think any of the senior members have forgotten what it was like as a newb, but I do think that people getting into this hobby need to put forth more effort before jumping in. I've lost one or two babies (one from a cage that was not intended for hatchlings and I didn't figure that out until it was gone and the other because I didn't close a lid all the way). I didn't post about it because I felt pretty damned stupid and I read up on advice on what to do. We've all made mistakes. Not learning from those mistakes is what brings out some backlash.

Stick around, you'll quickly figure out that this is one of the nicer, most helpful forums out there. I hope you agree.
 
We really are nice people...just some people don't learn when you're nice. Sometimes you just have to cram the info down somebody's throat :)

Don't keep your opinion to yourself...but make sure you've thought it through and post a well though, formulated argument for your opinion.

Happy herping, and welcome!
 
I think that maybe some people take "tough love advice" as flaming and that is fine but what I do not agree with is being aggressive and name calling and swearing in posts/replies.

Common sense is needed to care for your pets (snakes or others) and not just say "oh, I want a snake" and then just get one, you need to have a basic knowledge, read, get info and have some degree of maturity.
 
jenkva said:
I think that maybe some people take "tough love advice" as flaming and that is fine but what I do not agree with is being aggressive and name calling and swearing in posts/replies.

Common sense is needed to care for your pets (snakes or others) and not just say "oh, I want a snake" and then just get one, you need to have a basic knowledge, read, get info and have some degree of maturity.

Go Vanina! I agree!
 
I've been trying lately to just not post on the threads that deteriorate into people arguing. Partly it's the old 'if you don't have something nice to say don't say anything at all' philosophy, but I also feel a lot of the time that the people who post 'dumb' questions already know the answer but are just trying to get attention. So I don't fuel their fire.
I've been kind of busy to post much at all really :)
Edit - good to see another Oregonian on here, I'm not sure where Dayton is though :wavey:
 
shed'n my skin said:
I've been trying lately to just not post on the threads that deteriorate into people arguing. Partly it's the old 'if you don't have something nice to say don't say anything at all' philosophy, but I also feel a lot of the time that the people who post 'dumb' questions already know the answer but are just trying to get attention. So I don't fuel their fire.
I've been kind of busy to post much at all really :)
Edit - good to see another Oregonian on here, I'm not sure where Dayton is though :wavey:
Well if you take 99W south out of Portland area you pass thru a couple towns, and after oh 45 minutes or so you see a cutoff that says Dayton Salem. Take it and you find yourself in a tiny little town known as Dayton..
 
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