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Baytril Antibiotic....

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Markey

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My son's snake Markey was given Baytril oral antibiotics this past Monday for a possible respiratory infection. I'm supposed to give it to her for two weeks. The vet said she doesn't give injections because they cause abcesses.

Today I received a followup call from the vet clinic. I asked about a few things (soaking Markey, temps, etc...things that I was told here) and they referred me to another clinic because the vet I saw is now on vacation for two weeks.

I decided to contact the vet clinic and I was a bit shocked that they were shocked that Markey is taking oral meds. They said that they ALWAYS do injections and that they never prescribed oral antibiotics for a snake. She then said, "It might work." Uhhh hello! It MIGHT work??? That really scared me.

I did not want to play the "he said she said" game so I told them I was confused and that I just wanted Markey to get better. I was told that if Markey doesn't improve or if she seems better and then gets worse, I should have her seen again.

She also told me that the temps I was given to keep Markey's tank at were too low.....so thank you all here for telling me to get those temps up!

What bothers me is that the first lady (vet) is supposed to be knowledgeable in snake care.....and she didn't even know the proper temps??? She told me that she has fifteen years of snake experience.....

How am I supposed to know who to trust with Markey? I'm so worried now that the oral antibiotics are not going to work. Like Markey may seem fine and then all of a sudden be bad....and I cannot take losing Markey.
 
Injectable antibiotics work better, IMO, and are easier to administer. They should not cause abcesses if given correctly. The first vet did what most "snake" vets do with a potential infection, give Baytril. It isn't always effective. The vet should have taken a sample and cultured it to find out what antibiotic to prescribe, just like a human doctor would. I would not go back to the first vet, but that's just me. I would try the second vet. They sound like they didn't want to step on the first vet's toes by saying that vet did anything wrong. Just my .02.
 
I have never heard of giving baytril orally. I doubt that was right. Temps most likely need to go up, in the upper 80s. An average adult corn (~500 grams) should receive about .10 cc of baytril. The concentration of the baytril should be .0225%, any more than that will cause abscesses. Also, shots should be given in the upper 1/3 of the snakes body, near the head. Hope this helps.
 
I'll figure it out at work tomorrow for you. I haven't heard of it given orally I know the vet I work for wouldn't even suggest it. And I'm not sure about 0.1cc in injectable. Just because it's concentration is 22.7 not what was said earlier. Therefore when you get the dose it might be small enough you may have to dilute it.

How much does the snake weigh?
 
xXMetalsAngelXx said:
I'll figure it out at work tomorrow for you. I haven't heard of it given orally I know the vet I work for wouldn't even suggest it. And I'm not sure about 0.1cc in injectable. Just because it's concentration is 22.7 not what was said earlier. Therefore when you get the dose it might be small enough you may have to dilute it.

How much does the snake weigh?
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The concentration of .0227% (not .0225) is what should have been given by the vet, anymore than that and you need to find a new vet.
 
I hope this helps

Markey said:
How am I supposed to know who to trust with Markey? I'm so worried now that the oral antibiotics are not going to work. Like Markey may seem fine and then all of a sudden be bad....and I cannot take losing Markey.
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Try this site for vets in Wisconsin.
 
I have to give 0.12 ml once daily for fourteen days. The second vet told me I should definitely finish out the oral meds that I started but now I'm definitely going to take Markey to the second vet and NOT back to the first one once this has cleared. I'm very distraught over this.
 
mike17l said:
The concentration of .0227% (not .0225) is what should have been given by the vet, anymore than that and you need to find a new vet.
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The bottle it comes in is at 22.7 concentration that's what I meant. I'm not saying give 22.7.
 
I've used both oral & injectable Baytril for reptiles, and both worked like a charm.

The oral Baytril I used on a boa with a bacterial infection while the injectable Baytril I used on a turtle with shell rot. Both do work. Usually vets are not comfortable giving syringes to owners and will prescribe oral Baytril, or they will require the owner to come in every day to treat the animal.
 
blckkat

Ola I not sure if my first response went out, can u tell me how much oral baytril u gave ur boa, mine is approx. 4 lbs and tablets r 22.7 mg..thanks
 
Fenderplayer108 said:
Philly, that sounds right. Don't quote me on this, but I think the dosage on Baytril is 5mg per pound.
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SORRY, Having a brain-fart. The routine dosage of Baytril for reptiles is 5 mg/kg IM/PO q 24h. Being said, your boa is 4 pounds, that is equal to 1.81436948 kg's.

So 5mg X 1.81436948 = 5.718, so you would want to give about 5 1/2 - 6mg's.

This is JUST a guess that I came up with while reading some info, wait for someone who is sure to post before taking my advice.
 
Sorry, but my recommendation is speak to a qualified exotics veterinarian before attempting to medicate any animal. There are different dilutions of medications available and no one should risk over medicating there animals. :)
 
blckkat

If I could afford a vet thats what I would do..All I was asking for was some advice and Fenderplayer108 gave me what i was looking for..I thought that was what these forums were about........I'v used injectable baytril before and this was our first time using oral and could not find a scale for weight to doseage so thats why I asked u. my mistake..U risk burning ur snakes skin everytime u use injectable baytril..U risk over medicating ur animals everytime u use injectables so don't chastise me about over medicating... :twoguns:
 
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I replied very nicely with my opinion and why I will not provide the dosage I used to you. I am not a vet and feel I am unqualified to give dosage useage out to anyone regardless if it was given to me. You are not even supposed to be able to get Baytril (injectable in particular) except for from a vet.

Shame on you for your rude post.
 
By the way, Baytrill is a very heavy antibiotic I have been told so for a supposed and i assume not severe pneumonia it is heavy duty... my vet gave my snake with pneumonia (quite severe) Enrofloxoral instead, which is specifically for RI and does not kill almost any bacteria in the snake, like in the guts.
 
blckkat

Ur reply was very arrogant . I wasn't asking how much to give my snake, I was asking how much U used and the weight of ur snake as advice . Baytril is not illegal. It like any other thing can b bought off the internet..I have an albino redtail with a slight viral infection and taking him to the vet at this time is impossible after just having twins..Maybe my reply was a little harsh but I didn't expect ur snobbish answer.. I'm sorry :)
Blutengle my reply to u is if u negelect ur snake to the point it gets pneumonia u shouldn't own one... colubreds come on give me a break if its not a boid its not really a snake now is it ???? Sunglows, Albinos, Snow redtails..Albino, Pastels, Spiders, Pinstripes, Bumblebee ball pythons, REAL snakes.....Thats my collection.. :grin01:
 
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