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Can Ball-pythons live on mice?

JessKeen

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The subject pretty much says it all. I have a good source for feeder mice, and was wondering if a ball python can live on mice. I imagine for an adult it would take like 3 per feeding to add up to a small rat, but is this ever done?

We have been talking about adopting another corn at the repticon here in may, but the rescue group has wayyy more ball pythons and my husband wondered if it would be more fun to have two different types of snake.
 
If you're planning on feeding strictly mice, I would probably go with a male Ball Python, as they tend to be quite a bit smaller than females. But I don't see why you'd have a problem. Some of the large mice I've ordered have been about as big as a small rat anyways.
 
Even a female? I like the idea of a female getting bigger :) I love big fat snakes (within reason, I don't want one big enough to eat my cat for example...not that there's anything wrong with that...). So would I just determine how many adult mice to feed based on the weight of the snake?

And then another question, a 29 gallon aquarium on it's side is 30x18x12 (ish) would that be adequate for a ball? I have read that they are content to just hide out most of the time.
 
Chances are an adopted Ball Python will dictate to you what it wants to eat. BP's can be very selective on what they eat that's why most BP keepers put them on rats right off. They are hard to switch from mice to rats later in life. Some will only eat live. Besides possible shedding issues, BP's at times will make you wonder what is wrong when they go off feed when nothing is.
There are SO MANY normal BP's up for adoption that if you choose to get one then I congratulate you on helping an unwanted pet. Just keep in mind that even though most BP's are pretty simple to take care off with the proper setup, others can be huge pain :)
 
Other than asking a lot of questions, and obviously checking to make sure that the snake is a healthy weight and has no obvious problems, there is really no way to tell if the snake is a picky eater I'm assuming. I just found out that my mouse guy is also a rat guy, so that is no longer a concern. I am hoping that whoever is representing the rescue at the repticon will have records of some sort available as to feeding/shedding/etc but I'm not too sure about that because some of their animals are kept in fosters. Just have to wait and see I guess :)
 
People who foster rescue animals are putting in a lot of work in order to help out an animal. There might be the occasional exception, but I would think they would be more than willing to take some time to pass on basic info such as what the snake has been eating. The rescue organization may or may not have that info handy at the show (although with BPs they are really doing the animal a disservice if they can't even tell you what it has been eating), but if you are able to contact them after the fact, they should be able to get it to you.

To convert a BP from one food type to another, I have had good success by offering live prey of the new type. Some times they'll skip a few meals, but the live prey is pretty enticing to them so usually they'll take it pretty quickly. Then, once they are taking the new prey type without hesitation and I want to convert them to f/t, I defrost the prey item in the room where they are so the smell of it gets them into eating mode. Once it is fully defrosted, I get a cup of VERY hot water (close to boiling, and if it does boil, I don't consider that too hot). Dip the head of the prey item in the water for about 10 seconds, then allow it to drip for a couple seconds which also allows the surface to cool enough it won't burn the snake. Dangle this in front of the snake. Most of mine struck aggressively within maybe 10 seconds the first time f/t was offered to them this way.

BPs are notoriously picky eaters, though, so you can't count on this to work 100%. Some will demand a certain prey type, and some will demand live. They can also fast for a really long time, so the idea of just letting them get hungry by missing a few meals if they refuse the new prey type won't necessarily work. Luckily, they can be perfectly healthy eating either rats or mice. Also, if/when they decide to strike, they are efficient killing machines so I believe that feeding live is not as much of a danger with them as it is with corns. Of course, you should never leave unattended live prey in with any snake.

If you do get a BP, and have trouble getting it to eat, just post, and I'm sure you'll get plenty of advice!

I totally agree with your husband's idea of getting a different species for your second snake. I love both BPs and corns, but in totally different ways. BPs are excellent for cuddling on the couch while watching a tv show; corns are much more active and interesting to watch in their viv and to have a more active handling session.

And yes, I think the 29 gallon on its side will be big enough for a BP for its whole life. the CB-70 tub is sort of a standard in BPs, and the dimensions of that are about 33x18 if I remember correctly.
 
Definitely go rats with them if you can. I have 1 or 2 that only seem to want to eat mice for me, but once they've had one they're done. So it's hard to get enough in them because the meals aren't really large enough for them any more.
 
Live on mice, sure.
Thrive?... not as much.
They really do far better on rats... you will see an acceleration in their growth the moment they start eating rats.
 
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