Can someone help tell me what this new guy of mine is?

[pfeiffer]

Hi everyone, I need a little help here. When I spoke to the woman I bought this big guy from she said he was an albino adult male but, when I got there I looked at him and said I really don't think he can be an albino. She said she thought the same thing but that when she bought him they kept telling her yes he is an albino and since she is not an expert she just took them at their word. I am no where near an expert either so I am looking for some help.
I would just like to know what to say when people ask what type he is.

The first set of pics are of him. The second set are of a Creamsicle male I also just added to my collection and I just want some feedback that he really is a creamsicle, the third set is of the snow female I also just added to my ever growing collection....lol

Here is the ??????

Here is the creamsicle

And finally my snow girl

(my dad holding her because my hubby won't ...lol)

Thank you for any help you can send my way. I am planning on actively breeding next season and really need to learn as much as possible about everything especially morphs and hets and so so so much more!!!!

 

[dionythicus]

That is an amelanistic (red albino). So is the creamsicle. Remember that if you breed the creamsicle to your snow corn, the babies will be hybrids like the creamsicle. I'm a fan of hybrids, but many are not.

 

[pfeiffer]

That is an amelanistic (red albino). So is the creamsicle. Remember that if you breed the creamsicle to your snow corn, the babies will be hybrids like the creamsicle. I'm a fan of hybrids, but many are not.

Thanks, I have seen a lot of refrence to Amel's I had no idea they were albino's. I am hoping to breed the creamsicle with my Butter next year. I haven't decided about the snow yet but, I have lots of time to decide on that part.....I can't even decide on names for all my newbies yet....lol

 

[Floof]

Weren't you going to name one Fornell..? Lol!

This will be your best friend for identifying corn morphs: http://iansvivarium.com/cornmorphs.php

You know... Until (if) you get the Cornsnake Morph Guide!
http://cornguide.com/index.php

Hmm... Come to think of it, I still need a Cornsnake Morph Guide... =/

Oh! And the Generic Genetic Wizard is awesome for predicting your offspring... Free to download, too! I'm on it almost constantly trying to figure out the potential for my own pairings... =3 http://www.cornsnakes.nl/GenericGenWiz/MPGW.htm

Hope this all helps, and congrats on the new additions!! =)

 

[carol]

Both Amels look like Creamsicles to me. The first one is a dead ringer for my first corn, a Creamsicle.

 

[Old_School]

Both Amels look like Creamsicles to me. The first one is a dead ringer for my first corn, a Creamsicle.

I second that opinion:wavey:

 

[Michael823]

I second that opinion:wavey:

And I third!

 

[RobbiesCornField]

Those are some heavy duty wussy gloves! LOL
The first definitely looks like a creamsicle I had, although like they always say, you can't really judge some rat hybrids on looks alone.

 

[CrotalusCo]

First does look like it could possibly be a creamsicle, but could also be a corn as well. I would need a good hot of belly checkers to know more.

The second looks more like a frosted cream but it could be a light creamsicle.

third snow is a given

I wouldnt recommend breeding any cream to a cornsnake as you would end up with red creams at best 75% corn and 25% corns. They will look too much like corns both lowering their value and reducing hybrid markers.

I am a big lover of hybrids but those of us that do breed using hybrids or create them must try to be somewhat ethical by not breeding out hybrid markers. Hybrids value and interest is based on snakes that are unique and do not look like either parent. By keeping this in mind and being sure to keep any hybrid markers intact we can alleviate the concern of purists.

Your best bet for breeding your creamsicle would be to another cream or to another species