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Caramel motley x anery motley = Amelanistic motley?
- Thread starter Gregg
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Gregg
Ancient Elder
Thanks, Kat. It's always good to get another opinion.
Yeah, a butter would be nice, but I do have a caramel, het. amelanism. I guess I'll try breeding her to the caramel motley next time. I also think I'll breed the anery-motley to my sunglow-motley next year and start work on some snow motleys.
Yeah, a butter would be nice, but I do have a caramel, het. amelanism. I guess I'll try breeding her to the caramel motley next time. I also think I'll breed the anery-motley to my sunglow-motley next year and start work on some snow motleys.
sounds good
imho i would forget the snow motleys for a while and make more sunglow motleys and geta better richer color and work on the anyer motleys so when u do make the snows u have a very good choice in color.. possible a great bright white like the blizzard in stead of the soft white normale snow i seem to see alot... like i said thats just me.. but it looks like u got good ideas
imho i would forget the snow motleys for a while and make more sunglow motleys and geta better richer color and work on the anyer motleys so when u do make the snows u have a very good choice in color.. possible a great bright white like the blizzard in stead of the soft white normale snow i seem to see alot... like i said thats just me.. but it looks like u got good ideas
Gregg
Ancient Elder
Thanks, Eddie, I'll take that into consideration. I have no idea where all this might lead. I was told that it would be a waste of time to breed these two types together, since I won't get anything interesting, anery cancels out caramel, and so forth, but this one hatchling has given me a lot of information for future breeding projects. That's interesting enough for me. I'll file your idea into my "Future Breeding Plans Box," if that's okay with you.
Serpwidgets
New member
Probably more than you asked for, but here goes... hehe
Cool stuff! (It may even have been me who said that cross would be a waste of time. It sounds like me, anyway. LOL!)
Yep, you got it right, they're both het for amel, or as they say the one's "het for butter" and the other is "het for snow."
If you like butter motleys, you can make them in the next generation, just gotta grow one up first. You can hold back one of the amel mots and breed it back to the Carmot.
Your odds on that are an even 4-way split of:
Motley
Amel Motley
Caramel Motley
Butter Motley
(Bonus: all non-butters are known het for butter motley, too.)
Also, you could do snow mots, obviously. Depends on which sex(es) of amel(s) you keep.
With breeding back to the Anery motley parent, another 4-way split:
Motley
Anery Motley
Amel Motley
Snow Motley
(Same bonus: known hets for snow motley.)
With breeding two of the amel mots together (they're both het anery/caramel) you'd get a standard "double-het cross" result with amel motley on top:
9/16 Amel Motley
3/16 Snow Motley
3/16 Butter Motley
1/16 Snow motley (also caramel but you wouldn't know it, or could you tell when it grew up?)
If you like any of those results, definitely go for it. The coolest thing about it (another bonus) is that you'll get ALL motleys from any of those crosses, which will give you more selection for the motley pattern itself. Amel is amel, anery is anery, caramel is caramel. But not all motleys are created equal, and you get the biggest number to choose from.
Cool stuff! (It may even have been me who said that cross would be a waste of time. It sounds like me, anyway. LOL!)
Yep, you got it right, they're both het for amel, or as they say the one's "het for butter" and the other is "het for snow."
If you like butter motleys, you can make them in the next generation, just gotta grow one up first. You can hold back one of the amel mots and breed it back to the Carmot.
Your odds on that are an even 4-way split of:
Motley
Amel Motley
Caramel Motley
Butter Motley
(Bonus: all non-butters are known het for butter motley, too.)
Also, you could do snow mots, obviously. Depends on which sex(es) of amel(s) you keep.
With breeding back to the Anery motley parent, another 4-way split:
Motley
Anery Motley
Amel Motley
Snow Motley
(Same bonus: known hets for snow motley.)
With breeding two of the amel mots together (they're both het anery/caramel) you'd get a standard "double-het cross" result with amel motley on top:
9/16 Amel Motley
3/16 Snow Motley
3/16 Butter Motley
1/16 Snow motley (also caramel but you wouldn't know it, or could you tell when it grew up?)
If you like any of those results, definitely go for it. The coolest thing about it (another bonus) is that you'll get ALL motleys from any of those crosses, which will give you more selection for the motley pattern itself. Amel is amel, anery is anery, caramel is caramel. But not all motleys are created equal, and you get the biggest number to choose from.
Gregg
Ancient Elder
Thanks, Serpwidgets, you never give too much information--although, what you say is sometimes beyond my lazy brain to comprehend. You can see all this as 'scientific probability.' It's still a case of 'Natural Magick' for me. No matter how you slice it, it's cool.
You're also right about the motley pattern. I was sure that some of these might be striped, since the mother, i..e., the anery, is a product of stripe x motley. Personally, I'm glad none were; I'm not wild about striped and prefer motley. I got a wide range of motley patterns: 1/4. 1/2, 3/4, and full-length motley. Eventually, I'd like to have all kinds of motley corns. Naturally, I'll be keeping the amelanistic motley and the one most fully patterned--if they survive--but the rest will be up for grabs.
[Aside]: I'm totally stoked! So far, this season has been a good one: 100% hatch rate. Undoubtedly, it's a case of "Beginner's Luck." One has little control over whether or not an egg hatches, or goes bad. All we can do is set up the best possible artificial environment. Mother Nature was kind this year.
Stay Cool.
You can see all this as 'scientific probability.' It's still a case of 'Natural Magick' for me. No matter how you slice it, it's cool.You're also right about the motley pattern. I was sure that some of these might be striped, since the mother, i..e., the anery, is a product of stripe x motley. Personally, I'm glad none were; I'm not wild about striped and prefer motley. I got a wide range of motley patterns: 1/4. 1/2, 3/4, and full-length motley. Eventually, I'd like to have all kinds of motley corns. Naturally, I'll be keeping the amelanistic motley and the one most fully patterned--if they survive--but the rest will be up for grabs.
[Aside]: I'm totally stoked! So far, this season has been a good one: 100% hatch rate. Undoubtedly, it's a case of "Beginner's Luck." One has little control over whether or not an egg hatches, or goes bad. All we can do is set up the best possible artificial environment. Mother Nature was kind this year.
Stay Cool.
Serpwidgets
New member
Eddie, I'm always up for a good game of "stump the band." So are quite a few of us who prowl around here... I just happen to be the one who writes the longest responses the most often.
(Although I disagree, many times I can go way TMI, hehe.)
If you're serious, start a new thread with it. That what is so fun about these forums.
(Although I disagree, many times I can go way TMI, hehe.)
If you're serious, start a new thread with it. That what is so fun about these forums.