Color morph of new snakes

[Redalbino]

Hello, I just recently purchused 2 new corns from a man that was selling them as ghost corns, Im not that good at recognizing the different colors yet so would like some help with confirming it.
thanks

 

[Tara80]

I may be wrong, but I don't think this belongs in the breeding/egg production section:nope:

 

[Redalbino]

im sorry I didnt mean to put it here how do I move it?

 

[Tara80]

Lol, I was just teasing you. I don't even know myself. Not even sure if it matters.
As far as the pics, I do not own any ghosts so I am not sure how darks the coloration can go. They may be ghosts, almost look like adult Charcoals to me though.

 

[AvidHerp83]

here is a link you will enjoy http://iansvivarium.com/cornsnakemorphs.php

click on the names on the laft side, and there is usually a good set of pics of both hatchlings and adults of all the morphs. I would personally say that those are not ghosts, they look like Anery to me

 

[Jenn_Tigercat]

they look too dark to be ghosts

 

[Susan]

They may be dark ghosts as I've seen snakes listed as ghosts from breeders I trust that are as black as the blackest anery. I personally wouldn't knowingly purchase a ghost that wasn't obviously a ghost, but I also know that anery based morphs tend get more melanin as they age. I would test breed them to known hypo (insert combo gene here) and see what hatches out. Rich has always called hypo a 4-letter word and I've learned to agree with him as I've personally hatched out non-hypo=looking snakes whose genetics must be homozygous hypo or the genetics of the phenotypically hypo parents is so messed up that there must be a new gene in there somewhere.

 

[Lavman breeder]

I do not believe those are ghosts. It looks to be a charcoal.

 

[K. Rene]

They look like Anery's to me

 

[dave partington]

I realize the general "rule" is that it's either hypo or anery (one thing or another). However, the deeper I get into corns, it seems some rules can be bent, and in some instances, completely broken. Is it possible that both genes are occuring homo simultaneously, and that there is a "bleed through" effect happening in some instances? Or put another way, in some instances, genes which are not believed/supposed to be codominate -go codominate anyways? Would this be more likely to occur if the parents are super-overloaded with 'too many hets to list'?

 

[ZoologyGirl]

I realize the general "rule" is that it's either hypo or anery (one thing or another). However, the deeper I get into corns, it seems some rules can be bent, and in some instances, completely broken. Is it possible that both genes are occuring homo simultaneously, and that there is a "bleed through" effect happening in some instances? Or put another way, in some instances, genes which are not believed/supposed to be codominate -go codominate anyways? Would this be more likely to occur if the parents are super-overloaded with 'too many hets to list'?

I think you just confused me

If a snake is homo hypo and homo anery it is a ghost.

I'd guess the snake in question is anery, and *possibly* also homo for hypo (which would then make it a ghost, a dark ghost..but I wouldn't bet on it)

 

[Redalbino]

thank you for all the replies I purchased my first incubator online today, I do plan to breed them maybe next year when I understand more about corn snake genetics, If you know any good websites or books that could help me please let me know.

 

[Susan]

thank you for all the replies I purchased my first incubator online today, I do plan to breed them maybe next year when I understand more about corn snake genetics, If you know any good websites or books that could help me please let me know.

These 2 websites have excellent photos of the different corn snake morphs.

Corn Snake Morph Gallery

Ian's Vivarium - Guide to Corn Snake Morphs

You can purchase 2 excellent books on corn snake morphs and genetics here:

Corn Snake Morph Guide and Genetics for Herpers

 

[ZoologyGirl]

You can also play around with this morph breeding calc http://www.corncalc.com/

 

[PJ@PJCReptiles]

Personally, I would separate them now before you have a clutch of eggs before you are ready.

 

[Redalbino]

dont worry they are not living together

 

[PJ@PJCReptiles]

Glad to hear it!