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Confusion over morphs of babies

M

Marina-m2

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Hello,

Im at a loss i was sold a anner and a snow corn quite some time ago anyway they got together and mated now funny thing is i was told that when these two mate they would produce anners het for amel.

But they didnt they produced this!!
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Theres three like that all different shades of red and yellow. So now this got me thinking why did they produce those and i cant come up with anything.....except people are telling me theres no way the father is 100% anner can you lot please help me.

These are the parents the mother is snow and father is supposed to be anner.
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Marina:)
 
The father looks like a normal to me.
He may be het for anery but he's definately not an anery.
It's hard for me to tell from the pic. Are any of the the babys anery's?
 
I thought the father could be a Maimi phase. I agree with Steve that whatever he actually is, he's not anerythristic. He's got red pigment in the blotches.

The top baby might be amelanistic. The ground color of the body looks light enough. If the pupils of the eyes are pink, then it is definitely amelanistic, and the father is heterozygous amelanistic.

I'm not sure about the other babies.
 
Father's appearance aside.....

1. FACT: Since some of the babies are Normals: The father can't be homo Anery.

2. If some of the babies are Anery: The father is only het for Anery and the babies are all het for Amel (the Normals are also het for Anery)

3. If none of the babies are Anery: The father is something other than Anery (looks like he is a Normal or getting way out there, a possible Caramel) and all the babies are het for Anery and Amel.


IMO Paulh that top baby is a normal......
 
If it helps at all all the belly patterning is normal chequerboard and their eyes all all black.

Marina:)

p.s sorry about the bad close up!!
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Looks to me (from the limited information gathered from the pictures) like your male is normal het for anerythrism.

I would say that you may find that more than three of the babies are actually normals, though. Some normals are so darkly colored when they first hatch that they are sometimes easily confused with anerys, especially when you are not used to seeing the difference.

Give them a few weeks to eat and color up after a few sheds. Then, you should be able to more easily determine what you have: in the babies and in your adults!
 
I'm really glad Marina posted her pics and question here! We've been discussing this on a UK board for aaaaages! LOL!

Do any of you think it's possible that the male is a rootbeer with an anery het? Or am I way off base here?
 
Well, there is nothing in that male's pattern or coloration that just SCREAMS out "rootbeer," but anything is possible, I suppose. However, it appears to be a normally colored cornsnake on the picture I have seen. As far as a het anery, I have never seen any evidence that an animal could be identified as being het for anery just by its looks, so I don't know how you could know without breeding trials.
 
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