Corn ID query hypo

[bloodcorns]

The parents of these babies were a male hypo blood het lavender and a female caramel motley het amel

They seem to get brighter with every shed, is it possible that any of the hets listed above would have this influence or is it more likely mom was het hypo?

What do you think?

Male

Female

 

[ForkedTung]

Momma was a het Hypo!

 

[bloodcorns]

Momma was a het Hypo!

Thanks that's what I thought

Jenny

 

[Susan]

Only test breeding will prove this out as I have seen many normals that could easily pass as hypos. I'm not sure if you produced these yourself or not, but any chance you were able to compare them to their siblings at hatching or close to it? You should have been able to see some difference when compared to normal siblings if these are actually hypos.

 

[bloodcorns]

Only test breeding will prove this out as I have seen many normals that could easily pass as hypos. I'm not sure if you produced these yourself or not, but any chance you were able to compare them to their siblings at hatching or close to it? You should have been able to see some difference when compared to normal siblings if these are actually hypos.

They were a joint clutch between myself and a friend, she hatched them at her house, but as far as I can remember there was quite a difference in colour between the hatchlings

 

[cornmorphs]

If its a normal Jen, its a stunning one.

 

[ForkedTung]

There is one thing you can check for Hypo, some show ruby pupils in a cretain light....can you see that?

 

[bekers71]

IMO what you have are 2 normals that are expressing hets very well. I've noticed that in most cases, not always, a normal that is het for caramel or lav will look different. In this case 50% of the clutch would be het for lav and amel and all would be het for blood hypo motley and caramel. Most of these genes, on their own, have a lightening affect on the colors. I would almost bet that first one is one that is het lav along with it's other hets. Last year I hatched out 2 clutches of normals, no hypo in the mix what so ever, yet a few normals were so light you could swear they were. I don't think your's are hypos but as Susan stated, breeding trials later could prove or disprove any doubt.

 

[Drizzt80]

I have two Normals het Charcoal Stripe that grew up on an almost identical path to the picture you've shared. As hatchlings, they looked as dark as your average every day Normal cornsnake. As they've grown and matured, you'd swear they could be Hypo's. I think I personally see a difference in them compared to a real Hypo in that their saddle color and background color are closer matches than in a real Hypo. (Does that make sense?) Anyway, here's the two I have (complete with blue bowls!!):

Male:

Female:

I haven't been inclined to explore this as a genetic trait as Charcoal Stripes are personally more important to me right now. I recall seeing mentioned somewhere of the possibility of a trait that reduces the thickness of the black border, but can't recall that the idea gained any legs. :shrugs:

D80

 

[bloodcorns]

here goes pics of clutch mates

and pics of mine as hatchlings and then at about 2 months

male pre first shed

male at about 2 months

female pre first shed

female at about 2 months

 

[cornmorphs]

Thats a lot of change in 2 months turning out to be very pretty snakes.

 

[bloodcorns]

Thats a lot of change in 2 months turning out to be very pretty snakes.

yeah lol I know

 

[ForkedTung]

I have two Normals het Charcoal Stripe that grew up on an almost identical path to the picture you've shared. As hatchlings, they looked as dark as your average every day Normal cornsnake. As they've grown and matured, you'd swear they could be Hypo's. I think I personally see a difference in them compared to a real Hypo in that their saddle color and background color are closer matches than in a real Hypo. (Does that make sense?) Anyway, here's the two I have (complete with blue bowls!!):

Male:

Female:

I haven't been inclined to explore this as a genetic trait as Charcoal Stripes are personally more important to me right now. I recall seeing mentioned somewhere of the possibility of a trait that reduces the thickness of the black border, but can't recall that the idea gained any legs. :shrugs:

D80

wow Brent, Those certainly do look like Hypos, Are you ever going to breed them? Nice Blue Bowls by the way, I've never noticed those before, they just sell those in the Dakotas? lol
Hey bloodcorns, Did you try looking at their pupils?

 

[Drizzt80]

wow Brent, Those certainly do look like Hypos, Are you ever going to breed them?

They bred last year with separate mates that were equally light and Hypo-looking. These two have already bred with each other this year as well. Here's her clutch from last year:

Nice Blue Bowls by the way, I've never noticed those before, they just sell those in the Dakotas?

Not sure?! Maybe if you google it you may find someone close that supplies them. :shrugs:


D80