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Corn Snake Racism.

Bubbles

Bubbles

We Can't All Be Smart.
Corn Snake Racism

Has anyone noticed people on the internet seam to like and dislike different morphs of corn snakes? for example a normal corn snake compared to a morphed one. People seam to care more about the morphs and hate the normal I don't see why. from my point of view a snake is a snake no matter what colour size or shape it is it is kind of like Racism for snake by downgrading them because of there colours and sizes I was just wondering what others peoples views on this topic is that's if you no what I am on about?
 
Whilst I agree there is a point there that you're observing, that some people think normals aren't worth squat and others think they're beautiful, it's just like the hybrid/no hybrid debate or any other personal prefference issue.


I think it's just called personal preference. I think guys should be allowed to say they don't like short dumpy women and they like airheads with big boobs...it's all a matter of individuality.

I personally am attracted to medium build, athletic guys and not to overweight or overly hairy ones. I have a friend who LOVES a hairy gorilla man and her boyfriend is infact a tubby, fluffy kind. There's a human out there to please everyones eye just like there's a corn out there to please everyones eye.

I own 2 lovely normals and I think some of the normals I've hatched this season are quite striking but I'm also interested in the genetics side of raising cornsnakes as well as just keeping them so it makes sence from my perspective to have a great deal of variety as I'm interested in a broad range of colour permutations.
 
Can't say I've ever noticed much in the way of "anti-normalism" on here. A bit of "normal indifference" at times I suppose but there are a lot of people on here trying to, and with a keen interest in, breeding loads of unusual morphs so I suppose it's to be expected.

You can't really be to harsh on normals anyway. If it wasn't for the original normals no-one would have any of these morphs in the first place.

Have noticed a few amels getting :flames: from time to time though .... :rolleyes:
 
I can see where you are coming from. My personal preference is that on the scale, normals are at the bottom of what I like, but I don't have a favorite, well, Rich's blood red lav that is almost all purple is definitely at the top but I don't have $2000, let alone $2000 US funds!! thats like $7 Million Canadian, well OK, thats an exaggeration, but i digress.

I have seen one Normal that has really nice coloring that I like, its name is Zeth and he owns Holdenburn see him here:
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21693

But I agree with princess, just personal opinion, but I am not saying that Normals should be bashed in anyway shape or form.
 
cheers for your replys i didnt think what i said would make any sence lol but meh guess i was wrong it did make some sence and i see what you are saying and i am also intrested in some of the morphs i probily wont favour them over other snakes i will have in the future but i admit there are some smashing coloured and patterned snakes out there that i would like to have. but yeah just gets me down when peeps treat other peeps differnt and was wondering if it went on with people treating differnt snakes different lol kinda stupid i suppose.
 
Here's my real beef with racism, with snakes, lets say corn snakes, they are a race, no matter what colour they are, they are one race. Same thing with humans that really makes me mad, they all talk about racism, but we are the HUMAN RACE, again, no matter what colour we are. But then again, i am very opinionated if you haven't already noticed from my posts in the London Bombings Thread. Just wanted to get that off my chest.

Now I dont know if all snakes would fit under one race, probably, but I was just making a point. :)
 
Errr.... rascism...??? I will say that I only work with "normals," so to speak. And I am proud of my locality animals. But comparing morphs to human races... I think you are the first and only on the forums to ever make that leap. Geez, I feel like I'm on a Eugenics mission now!
 
elrojo said:
Errr.... rascism...??? I will say that I only work with "normals," so to speak. And I am proud of my locality animals. But comparing morphs to human races... I think you are the first and only on the forums to ever make that leap. Geez, I feel like I'm on a Eugenics mission now!
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Now, did you mean to say 'human races", pluralized it? B/c that is my point, one race, single, human race. lol, just my little pet peeve.

A for the leap, just a comparison, to try and make a point. :cheers:
 
Bubbles, I had a though. When someone says 'It's just a normal, I'm not paying $80 for it'. They're not putting down normals as a group they're just observing that with so many normals out there they're not as valuable....the market is saturated. But put an $800 price tag on one of Rich's lavander bloodreds and you'd have people tearing out each others eyes to get to it!!! This is because there aren't so many available in the market. Mark my words, in 5 years, you'll be able to pick up a nice lavblood at a show for what you pay for a granite today.

Also, it's a bit anthromorphic really, the snake doesn't care what colour it is. I thoroughly doubt they have a sence of 'race'. As long as he gets his nice viv and a mouse a week, he's a happy snake....regardless of whether he was bought for $15 or $1500.
 
I've encountered the opposite with people disliking the whole morph concept and preferring reptiles to remain as they would be found in the wild... as has already been said, there's a corn snake for everyone
 
I can't say I have ever heard of any debating over normal versus other kinds of morphs; but if you started a thread on the hybrid versus pure corn debate, thats where it tends to get ugly. Thats where I think the corn community is really split.
 
I love em all :grin01:

In fact, in about 3-4 weeks i'll be picking up 2 new additional hatchling.....yep you'ce guessed, both normals het anery to add 2 my snow and amel.

As long as the snakes are healthy (and preferabley friendley from the off :rolleyes: ) i'm not bothered what morph they are. If i was a large breeder tho, i might look on things differantley, but even if i were i would still like a little of everything. Just my thought's o it tho :shrugs:
 
There's a major difference between racism and taste. Having a preference for certain morphs is a matter of taste. I don't think morphed corns really qualify as different "races" anyway. ;)
 
princess said:
Bubbles, I had a though. When someone says 'It's just a normal, I'm not paying $80 for it'. They're not putting down normals as a group they're just observing that with so many normals out there they're not as valuable....the market is saturated. But put an $800 price tag on one of Rich's lavander bloodreds and you'd have people tearing out each others eyes to get to it!!! This is because there aren't so many available in the market. Mark my words, in 5 years, you'll be able to pick up a nice lavblood at a show for what you pay for a granite today.

Also, it's a bit anthromorphic really, the snake doesn't care what colour it is. I thoroughly doubt they have a sence of 'race'. As long as he gets his nice viv and a mouse a week, he's a happy snake....regardless of whether he was bought for $15 or $1500.
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I agree, I would totally be gouging out eyes if I could get a bloodred lav at that price!! :) sorry to all those that got in the way... but what can you do? LOL
 
Wow! I'm hot on any morph of snake....in fact all snakes! I have 4 normals, so there you go! I like the patterns more than the colors anyway, but there is nothing like a beautiful normal!
 
PssdffJay said:
Now, did you mean to say 'human races", pluralized it? B/c that is my point, one race, single, human race. lol, just my little pet peeve.

A for the leap, just a comparison, to try and make a point. :cheers:
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Just curious, is there only one gender too?
 
Serpwidgets said:
Just curious, is there only one gender too?
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no no, I am just saying why to all the racism, we are the human race! No need to discriminate due to genetic colour. depending on what you believe, big bang, creation, something else, we all could have started out as "normals" and thorugh the years developed different genetics, like corns. still a big leap there but my point is we are the human race! So where's the love?
 
meh i hate racism cant stand it i grew up in a old fashioned school and my best mate who is black went to the same school with me and he was always getting taken the piss out of and i hated it thats why i hate racism so much have since an easly age. But meh i guess u lot are right about the snakes but wrong. I see you trying to say there is not more than one race of corn snake, but on the other hand ant humans all one race as well? so it could be classed as snake racism in a way but it couldn't i suppose. I guess its just a funny topic lol i think its one of them 2 sided topics that wont ever be solved.

i guess everyone on here almost everyone if not everyone likes all types of snakes but prefers different morphs but they are all equal no matter what shape size or colour so its not racism is someone prefers one pattern on a snake to the other? meh I'm confused to much for my little brain to take in lol.

:cheers:
 
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