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Corn snake to african house snake breeding

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reptile_addict

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Does any one think it's possible? I have a male house snake and a female corn. I want to try it in a couple of years. They lay eggs like corns and are alot like corns so maybe it will work. They require no preperations to breed houses and he will probably go for a corn to breed with. Any oppinions? I know they breed corns to kings and milks to kings so maybe this will be possible.
 
may be they can, but i doubt it i think there too far away in relation they may prduce offspring but non fertile. but i would love to see the out come. i know some one that is mixing a leu. texas rat with a taiwanese rat i cant wait to see the outcome there due to hatch late march erly april.
 
ya I heard the same thing about the rats. I think it could work for the corn and house snake. They are a ton a like and both require the same temps and humidity
 
reptile_addict said:
ya I heard the same thing about the rats. I think it could work for the corn and house snake. They are a ton a like and both require the same temps and humidity
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How are they a ton alike other than the fact they have similar husbandry requirements? Also, most of the websites I've seen say that House snakes need 85-90 degrees on the hot side of the viv---that's substantially hotter than what corns need.

One is from Africa, the other is from North America. They dont look the same, and arent even the same genus, nevermind species. Maybe I'm just jumping all over this "they are a ton alike" comment, but it certainly doesn't seem like they're anything more than similar. Just because they're both colubrids and eat mice certainly doesn't make them a ton alike.

I for one dont see the point in breeding one to a corn. :shrugs:
 
If it was a success then this could be the start of a new snake morph, "house corns". I am not sure that it would work but it sounds like its worth a try.
 
It wouldn't be a new "morph". It would be a hybrid. A morph is a pure cornsnake that has a specific genetically determined appearance, but a cornsnake morph does not have genes from any other species.

Snakes like creamsicles and rootbeers are morphs of hybrids. They are not cornsnakes because they have been crossed with an entirely different species. That would be like crossing a horse with a donkey, and saying you have a new breed of horse when you don't, you have a hybrid called a mule.

It may have some interesting results. Personally I don't think it will be that spectacular as house snakes are pretty plain looking, but you never know.

Personally I really dislike hybridization in general. It may come to a point in the future where some of these species we keep in captivity only exist in captivity. I feel that it is our responsibility to make sure we preserve the genetic integrity of the species in our care. It's not as big of a problem with corns as they are so common in captivity and the wild, but with the less common reptiles and even birds, it becomes more urgent.
 
I bet it would be sterile...

and I agree with Sisuitl in that it would be kinda wierd having a captive only species.

should be interesting though, and I do like the idea of playing god :grin01:
 
Well at best the would be sterile, I mean it all depends on how far apart they are in that good old family tree. If it they split off too long ago it might not be possible at all and again at best you would get some pretty cool hybrids. To whomever made the similar humidity and temp comment that doesn't mean they are alike at all and to use that as a gauge is pretty silly because they could each have different backgrounds and be quite distant I mean with parallel evolution ( two species evolving in similar ways but not having having any relation ex bats and birds both have ability to fly but are no where near related.) So I know they are both snake specie but I wouldn't use that as a gauge that is all. Good luck on this little experiment but I bet you are just going to get a liger and that is at best.
 
A liger is a cross between a lion and a tiger. What he means is you will probably end up with a fairly useless hybrid that isn't fertile so won't be able to reproduce.
 
lol possum...I swear that movie is going to be the death of me! GOD!

Anyways...to answer your question rep addict, no its probably not possible. Animals are classified according to kingdom-phylum-class-order-family-genus-species. House snakes and cornsnakes go as far as sharing the same family; thats it. Kings share the same genus, but not the same species. Rats share the same everything, but they are considered a subspecies. It would be like trying to breed a python to a boa. If you are looking into the business aspect of it, hybrids are not really in demand except fo creamsicles, and you would need a supreme specimen to really stand out in that area.
 
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