cornsnake babies

[RIOSMA]

Hello dear users.first of all i would like to apologise for my bad english as i am from greece and i have limited foreign speaking talent.i am 20 years old and i am a reptile anthusiast.i do have a good rate of knowledge in keeping and breeding.i am not satisfied from greek reptile forums as their cooperation level is patheticly low.this year i successfully bred my cornsnakes.the male is albino and the females have mormal phenotype.this year one famale which is 2 years old and have an hypomelanistic phenotype laid 11 eggs.they all hatched at 5/6/2006..the other female laid me 26eggs and i am waiting these days the hatchlings.the special reason i am telling you this folks is that i have 3 babies produced from the female at 5/6/2006 that are extremely weird.i call them high orange albinos if i can use the correct terminology.the high orange albino is my term but it is pretty informative.they have pale orange colour.typical albinos are red these babies are brillant pale orange.to be more specific i will try to explain the colour i mean.if you have saw the albino tangerine honduran milksnake you might have notice the albino tangerine bands.this colour is the colour that fits the most with the colour i am trying to describe.hatchlings of this type of colour have almost no pattern.their colour is almost the same even in their pattern.(they have the normal cornsnake pattern.).any ideas of what type of cornsnakes these are?please help me i cannot identify them.sorry for being boring but i cannot upload a photo-i do not know why.thank you any way!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Paradox]

Hi-and welcome to the forums Your English is good...you speak English much better than I could speak Greek

As for the name, I wouldn't know, I am new to the snake addiction. But I wish you and your snakes well.

 

[dwyn127]

Welcome to the forum. First of all, a picture would help. I have 7 albinos from the same clutch and some are pale orange and some are bright orange. I bet they all start to look similar as they shed a few times.


And second, your english is fine; very understandable. In fact, better than some on this forum who study it as a primary language. :grin01:

 

[susang]

Hi, and welcoem, your English is great. It may be your photo images are too big to upload so you will have to resize them first. good luck susan

 

[MegF.]

If you don't want to resize them, you can place the copied properties between these two symbols. [ IMG ] and then you enclose it with [ / IMG ] There will be no spaces between the symbols though. I had to make a space or the forum thinks there's supposed to be an image and it will just make a red x. You wouldn't be able to see what you had to type.

 

[RIOSMA]

i would like to thank all of you for your good words!.thanks for your replies also..sorry but i am not familiar with converting or resizing pictures,generally i am amateur in handling computer softwares.anyway i will try to upload photos of my hatchlings.
dwyn127 is it possible for you to upload any photos of your pale and bright orange albinos in order to compare them with my babies? i believe that it will take me some time to upload my photos because i am working with my friend΄s camera..thank you guys for your time!!!!!

 

[bitsy]

Hi there.

Some Amels (albinos) look very pale when they first hatch and their colours get deeper and brighter as they shed. Have any of yours shed yet?

There are pure Corn Amels which are shades of orange, rather than shades of red/pink. Here is my 13 year old male:

 

[bitsy]

This is the lightest hatchling that Joshi has fathered so far. He coloured up after a couple of sheds.

 

[RIOSMA]

yes that is what i am talking about!!!!!!!!the second photo is the photo i am trying to upload.my babies are the same with bitsy΄s corns described in the second picture.could you please tell me which is the correct term of these corns?i have been trying to find out the term in the net in order to identify them bua i found nothing.could you please describe me the phenotype of your corn΄s parents which is pictured second?how much does these speciments cost?are they famous in the market or they are seen only in private collections?do you suggest inbreeding in these speciments?
thank you...i am waiting your reply.

 

[bitsy]

Well, my Corns above are both Amelanistic Corn Snakes ("Amels" for short).

Amels are a very common colour of Corn and are not much more expensive than the Normal types here in the UK. However, you may be able to sell them for more where you live, if they are scarce. Shop prices here differ. You can pay anything from £20-£50 for an Amel, depending on where you live and how many competing shops there are nearby. Buying direct from the breeder is usually cheaper.

The parents of the hatchling above are Amelanistic het Anerythristic (the adult male photo) and a Snow female (which carries both the Amel and Anery traits). Snows are white Corn Snakes with pinkish markings and they sometimes develop a little yellow as they grow up.

Amels, Anerys and Snows are all common Corn Snake colours.

I think inbreeding is OK for a few generations, as long the animals that you're breeding have no health problems. Inbreeding is a common way of developing new morph variations in Corns, so it isn't inherently wrong. However, it's always a good idea to introduce new, unrelated animals into bloodlines occasionally.

Hope that helps.

 

[RIOSMA]

at last!!i made it..in this photo you can see some of my babies.you can notice an albino,my hets,a snow hatchling an next to the snow is the baby i was trying to find out its id.i have pictured it in all of its brothers in order to compare the colour.its colour looks like pink but the photo was taken by a mobile.well i do not know it could be pink.i let you to find out.yesterday i thought it was orange.

 

[RIOSMA]

at last!!i made it..in this photo you can see some of my babies.you can notice an albino,my hets,a snow hatchling an next to the snow is the baby i was trying to find out its id.i have pictured it in all of its brothers in order to compare the colour.its colour looks like pink but the photo was taken by a mobile.well i do not know it could be pink.i let you to find out.yesterday i thought it was orange.

i made a mistake the second photo is the photo i am talking about.sorry guys

 

[RIOSMA]

sorry sorry this is the photo i am talking about.if you could tell me how to clear this mess i created it would be wonderful.

 

[RIOSMA]

sorry sorry this is the photo i am talking about.
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if you could tell me how to clear this mess i created it would be wonderful.

 

[bitsy]

The one I think you mean, does look like a very light Amel. However, I would see how it looks after two sheds - sometimes their colours can change a lot in the first few weeks.

I still think that it will turn out to be an Amel, but it's always interesting to see how they develop.

That's a nice mixed bag of hatchlings! Do you know what the parents are (morphs/hets)?

 

[RIOSMA]

thnx for your compliments.thats nice.oh yes i know their genotypes!!!they seem to be het snow,het amel,het carcoal.the babies is the original proof.