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courtship (?) video

JohnR

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So today I was cleaning cages and put my new male in with one female...and ha, he was excited to say the least! Video quality is poor, but you get the idea. I have no idea if they locked up, but I did see some tail twisting going on. They are separated now.

Was it a bad thing that they did that this early in the year?

 
Might be too early for the female to be ovulating, but no harm in trying as long as the female's in good condition.

The only disadvantage to early mating in the wild is that weather conditions might not be good for egg incubation or hatchlings might emerge too soon for a supply of their natural food to be available. Neither of those apply in captivity.
 
Well, you'll know for sure if you see spillage. You can smell it, too. Also, when they lock up, they stay very still, well, compared to when he was trying to talk her into it, and their tails just wave around.
 
Your female in that video was showing that she was unreceptive, by racing around like that. She was definitely not ovulating and willing to breed.
 
I would wait till the female has her next shed, and then put them together every five days or so, and see what she thinks.
 
ok, thanks for the input.

When I put them together...now or in March or whenever, how long do you keep them together?
 
Once they breed, I take them back apart, and then put them together every three days. Last season, two of my pairs mated five times before I stopped putting them together. That was _more_ than enough.
 
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What happens if you don't see the breeding happen? do you leave them together for the whole day or pull the male out after say an hour?
 
People do it differently. I give them about an hour, but in my experience if they aren't showing interest in ten minutes or so, they aren't going to change their minds. But if they are curled up in separate corners after an hour, or one is hanging from a ledge, I just separate and try in three more days.

This is what they look like when the male knows it isn't going to happen, and just wants to go home! (This pair went on to breed successfully five times).
 

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Earlier the same season, Pepper displayed the same behaviour with his "mate," Ruby. I accused him of being afraid of girls, but upon further investigation, it turned out that Pepper knew Ruby was actually a male. Poor Pepper!
 

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So you can imagine how happy I was to see this, after Buzztail finally agreed to Pepper's advances!
 

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I know people do it different ways, but I put the female in a bin on newspaper, and put all her stuff in there. Hides, water bowl, vines. She lives in that breeding bin. Then, when I introduce the male, I remove most of the stuff except for maybe a vine, and leave them alone to mate. When they are done, I put in clean paper and put the male back in his bin. That way, the female isn't getting all jostled around and thrown into the male's territory. It seems to me like she would be more comfortable. The male doesn't care- he only has one thing on his mind.

To help with the "mood," I'll keep the female's shed and leave that in with her, in case it has pheromones lingering, that indicate to the male she is ready. I'll mist the sides of the bin to simulate a spring shower. And I'll put them together in the late afternoon/early evening, when they would most likely be out and active, in the wild.

Some people put the female in with the male, theorizing that it's easier for him to find her because the scent will be contained on her body, not all over the whole bin she's been living in. In my experience, which granted, is still limited, the male has no trouble whatsoever finding the female no matter where she is!!
 
I was wondering why the shed skin was in there with them. Have corns ever killed each other instead of mating?
 
Someone this last season had something horrible happen- and I can't find the thread! Either the female _ate_ the male, or killed him trying.
 
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