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Debate forum

Snakes Incorporated

Snakes Incorporated

Unusual but effective
Why not introduce a (private) forum or thread where the members can Debate issues that are bothering them.
A little freedom to respectfully and openly vent or express opinions without “management” controlling the direction and or conclusion?
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I think that's possible for anyone who has a personal forum -- they "moderate" the threads on their own forum as they see fit IIRC.
 
I don't think management here controls the direction or conclusion of any thread aside from making sure people aren't breaking various forum rules such as personal attacks or profanity.

Can you give an example?
 
I think they mean without the threads being closed. I think it's a good idea, to have an area specifically for debating certain subjects.
 
Vicky hi! I don't want to argue or "debate this" lol, but I can't remember the last time a thread was closed for any reason. I am sure a few have been, but around here it's a rarity.
 
We could all use the forum "Hell" over on Fauna for stuff like that, just post "let's take it to Fauna-H" and then go over there to continue.
 
When I suggest private I am talking about a closed thread with a warning. (If you don’t like it or easily offended avoid etc.)
The necessary agreed membership criteria that can be accusable were the responsible moderator allows participation on request so is “open” to all.
 
A forum where the moderator will allow only those members that wish to participate as long as they agree by the rules laid down for that particular discussion?

Already have that...it's call cornsnakes.com. If you are a member of this forum, you have agreed to abide by the forum rules, which really aren't many. You join those discussions you wish and are not forced to stay in that discussion if you do not want to. The threads are open to all members and if there are any rule violations, the moderators deal with it.

To have "closed threads" where only a select few could participate is just a little too restricted, IMO. There is already a personal forum where some topics of an adult nature can be discussed, but that is mostly to prevent those members not of legal age from participating...the whole "contributing to the delinquency of a minor" issue. What more do you need?
 
Susan then don’t make it private. That was just a suggestion from me. The original discussion is to have a thread for debates only. Things that can be discussed such as controversial issues as in evolution & religion etc.
For open debates to take place there must be a thread set aside. To have a free and open debate on the normal forum may not “jell” with conservative members or “kids” but if you want it as part of the forum great.
 
Snakes Incorporated said:
Susan then don’t make it private. That was just a suggestion from me. The original discussion is to have a thread for debates only. Things that can be discussed such as controversial issues as in evolution & religion etc.
For open debates to take place there must be a thread set aside. To have a free and open debate on the normal forum may not “jell” with conservative members or “kids” but if you want it as part of the forum great.
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I think if forum rules are followed, then "conservative" members and kids already have the option not to view or join, and if they do, the content isn't full of personal insults and profanity. Private debate forums I have seen on other forums usually turn out to become personal attacks and name calling threads, which really doesn't serve anyone well. All "debates" should be out in the open for anyone to view or join in on in my opinion, as long as forum rules are adhered to.
 
ComoxCorn said:
I think if forum rules are followed, then "conservative" members and kids already have the option not to view or join, and if they do, the content isn't full of personal insults and profanity. Private debate forums I have seen on other forums usually turn out to become personal attacks and name calling threads, which really doesn't serve anyone well. All "debates" should be out in the open for anyone to view or join in on in my opinion, as long as forum rules are adhered to.
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ComoxCorn then your opinion is that a private or closed thread for members who wish to participate in debates should be the way to go. This I agree with.
The reason being is that an open debate must have certain freedoms and open. Not stuck in a box of rules and "be nice or else".
Reasonable expressions will lead to "arguments" but this allows both 'sides' to be fair allowing us to evaluate both sides constructively.
I may not agree with how you say it but I agree with your argument.
 
Snakes Incorporated said:
ComoxCorn then your opinion is that a private or closed thread for members who wish to participate in debates should be the way to go. This I agree with.
The reason being is that an open debate must have certain freedoms and open. Not stuck in a box of rules and "be nice or else".
Reasonable expressions will lead to "arguments" but this allows both 'sides' to be fair allowing us to evaluate both sides constructively.
I may not agree with how you say it but I agree with your argument.
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To the contrary. You sure twisted around what I typed. What does name calling and swearing have to do with a debate? There have been many heated debate threads on CS.com. The only time I have seen the mods step in is when when personal insults or name calling has taken place, or foul language rules have been broken. I think most of the users of this forum are able to decide if they want to follow a thread or not.
 
I think the format is OK the way it is. I think the Mods and Rich do a good job keeping things civil, while still allowing people to say what they have to say.

And you're free to avoid threads/topics/debates you don't like. I personally tend to avoid many of those threads/topics mostly because people (including myself) can get really worked up and passionate about certain things. And I'd hate to let something like that interfere with interacting with anyone because we had disagreements.

For me, I come here first and foremost as a cornsnake site and to discuss cornsnakes. Sure its fun to talk about other things, but if you wanted a debate forum, there are plenty of other sites and avenues to have such a thing.

I say lets keep this site focused on bringing us together for the common bond of loving snakes. Just my 2¢
 
ComoxCorn said:
To the contrary. You sure twisted around what I typed. What does name calling and swearing have to do with a debate? There have been many heated debate threads on CS.com. The only time I have seen the mods step in is when when personal insults or name calling has taken place, or foul language rules have been broken. I think most of the users of this forum are able to decide if they want to follow a thread or not.
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This is exactly why I avoid those type of threads. Its so easy for the hot button issues to end up in name calling and bringing out the worst in people from BOTH sides of the debate.
 
I have to agree with most of the others...there is no need for any private debate forum. There have been plenty of debates of various topics on cornsnakes.com involving many sides and opinions on various issues. The only time they have been closed is when people start making personal attacks and name calling rather than debating the ideas.

This site is already one of the most free and easy gong sites i've been involved with. You can essentially say and talk about anything you want as long as you are not making personal attacks or excessively swearing (or posting porn or spam of course).
 
ComoxCorn said:
…. What does name calling and swearing have to do with a debate? ….
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O.K ComoxCorn lets meet in the middle so we can find the same page. No one said anything about excusing bad language or abusive speech except you.
I was personally called names on this forum but as I was a new ‘face’ the abuser was not reprimanded and I was unable to defend myself. This was because of the box rule mentality of “do what I say or else”. I am not knocking anyone or this forum but am suggesting a thread were the members are under the rules but have a little more freedom.
In short ComoxCorn do you agree with the introduction of a debate thread. YES or NO.
 
So basically, you want to debate, say, the death penalty, and you want everyone to be able to feel free to state their opinion, (which they are) and you don't want the mods to- what- lock the thread? (they don't), edit the thread? (they don't) make the thread stay on topic, or not let it go off topic? Allow personal insults? (I don't think that is allowed in HELL either). What would be different? What topic would you _like_ to be able to discuss, here, that you presently feel you can't? How do you feel restricted, now?
 
The debates have been existing just fine in General Chit-Chat. The only plus I would see in having thier own forum would be if we actually had the ability to "ignore" a whole forum. Now THAT would be sweet. :cool:
 
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