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Do they yawn?

GRNDPNDR

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So I had stu out and put him back in his tank without hos rock and he's exploring a bit now but he stopped then I looked over and saw a snake with his mouth wide open looking like a yawn.

It was kind of cute. Was he yawning?
 
I have seen mine do this a couple times. I think it's kind of yawning or readjusting their jaw.. almost like when you take a big stretch in the morning. Usually I see them do it after they eat, although I have seen Emily do it once or twice just for no reason at all!
 
I just watched it again. Within 20 mins or so.


I feel bad I took Stus rock away, but he's been exploring the surroundings and is now hidden under the tree. I guess he fits to some degree. He's borrowed a bit but ended up in the tree.

He also took a crap tonight. I fed him Saturday and at some point tonight during his explorations through and around his water he pooped beside the dish.

Should I put his original rock back and leave everything alone for weeks until he comes out on his own? Or should I leave his rock gone for a while
So he explores a d gets comfortable with new surroundings?
 
I've seen mine do this as well, isn't it cute!?

As to your other question...personally, I like to leave them a nice secure hide, even if I don't see them as much. I feel like having a safe "base" to retreat to makes them feel more secure. I could be totally wrong though! :)
 
We definitely keep multiple hides in our tanks. Sometimes we see the snakes out roaming and sometimes they hide away. Much like people, I feel like they have a right to a retreat.

As for the yawning, it's so cute! I love it! Ours seem to do it more just before shedding. :)
 
We definitely keep multiple hides in our tanks. Sometimes we see the snakes out roaming and sometimes they hide away. Much like people, I feel like they have a right to a retreat.

As for the yawning, it's so cute! I love it! Ours seem to do it more just before shedding. :)
 
So I had stu out and put him back in his tank without hos rock and he's exploring a bit now but he stopped then I looked over and saw a snake with his mouth wide open looking like a yawn.

It was kind of cute. Was he yawning?


Yes, it is VERY typical for snakes to "yawn" now and then. This is usually done to re-align the jaws back into proper positioning after a meal or drink. They also do this just prior to shedding to get the old shed skin loosened up on the labials where the shed will begin.

Corns usually do most of their cruising the cage at night since they are basically nocturnal, so when you usually see them on the move during the day, they are usually looking for a better place to hide and/or attempting to locate more favorable temeratures. Anyway, a nice tight hide is very important to the snake's well-being and feeling of security. This allows them to carry on very normally and with less stress,.......especially for small, young corns.



~Doug
 
Yes they "yawn", and it's really cute!

On the rock part of the question, i wonder why you removed it in the first place? Or am i missing something?
 
I just took the rock out to get him to explore a bit. I didn't leave it off for long.

I'm pretty sure this snake has grown up his whole life with the wrong substrate being used, with only this rock, water dish and a couple random stems of fake grass just bunched up and tossed in and poop in various places, not to mention a heat pad running constantly with no apparent means to measure the temperature, in the end this wasn't working anyway so god only knows how long he went without a heat pad, or how hot it was when it did work.

When he is out from under his rock, he doesn't seem scared and does explore a bit more.

Anyway I could be way of base here, but to me it almost seems like hes a snake version of an "addict". Because h has his rock and that's all he's ever had, he has no reason to go anywhere else, even though he now has much more cover and a more appropriate habitat.

It has nothing to do with wanting to see the snake, but I honestly wonder if he's still alive half the time.

I just want to try and get him to actually come out a bit simply to get more comfortale with his surroundings.

I've left him entirely alone since this post, except for the occasional lifting of the rock to check temp under his rock. I'm still trying to perfect the settings on my dial.


and yes, back to the original post at hand, it was indeed very cute. I've never witnessed a snake yawn, or even knew that they did.
 
It really has nothing to do with him "knowing" no other place but under the rock. However, it does have everything to do with that low, tight dark rock hide being the most suitable spot for it's security and well being . The only reason you will see it out more now is because it is in search of an optimum place to hide now.

Put in your own words, snakes are "addicted" to security and several other things they are instictively "hard-wired" for. It is simply the instict that has kept them surviving on this earth for countless millenia.



~Doug
 
Can't argue with that 

Will he ever roam around on his own or is this pretty much what they do?

Corns are very nocturnal, so when it is dark, that is naturally the time you will see them out and about in their enclosure(unless something isn't right with the husbandry aspect). During daylight hours they are far more prone to hide until night fall.........especially when young and more vulnerable to predation.

I have had entire huge clutches of corns temporarily housed in one container until they shed their first time. It contained the moist vermiculite they were hatched in, a dark hide at one end, and a water bowl. During the day, ALL of the 20 to 30 plus corns would be in the communal hide that was placed in there. As soon as it turned night-time, it was like a switch was turned on, and they would ALL be roaming about and the entire enclosure came alive with solid crawling snakes everywhere. They are just programmed to instinctively do this in search of prey, and better conditions/temps, moisture, water, etc...

Then when it gets light again,.....BAM!.......no more snakes, every single last one is back in the little dark hide in a huge pile..LOL!




~Doug
 
As said before, they are nocturnal. It's okay to check the temperatures but removing his hide away from him daily could stress it so be careful! What type of thermometer do you use? I have one with a probe directly above the heating pad so i don't need to lift up the hide.
 
I'm currently without a job, so don't have money for a probe thermo yet, but I've been using an infrared thermometer.

It has an 8" spot at 1" away so I can lift the rock, point it on him and get a reading of basically the entire snake. I think it's also fairly close if I take a reading right from the top of the rock without lifting the rock.
Problem is when the rock is lifted heat escapes, but I assume if he's reading 83*F, that's probably the temp with the rock covering him too.

I've been here in the dark and still see no signs of snake coming out. The only proof I ever had so far was him leaving a turd last week.

Is there a reason he chooses to poop beside his water dish every time? I moved the dish and he still drops deuces in the same spot relative to where his dish is.

I'll be installing red lights soon. I've been considering putting red LEDs in my lid, but also thinking of using white LEDs. I put an led flashlight on top at night and it's really quite beautiful. With the light diffused it appears as if a moon beam is lighting up a small spot near the watering hole and isn't much brighter than a clear night with a full moon

Also have ideas for a timer circuit to switch between red/white and/or emulate a sunrise/sunset effect.

I love making stuff and i couldn't see any harm in producing a more natural "acting" habitat for him.
 
I know I mentioned being jobless, the stuff needed to make the above mentioned circuits is mostly already in my inventory, so I'm not spending money on weird projects and skipping out on a good probe thermometer.

Just wanted to clear that up.
 
Do make sure to post the schematics in the DIY section, I would love to make one of those.
As far as the probe thermometer goes, i buy mine for €8 at the local reptile store so they aren't really expensive :)
 
The cheapest probe thermo I can find here is like $20. I'm also looking for one that does in/out and humidity though since my infrared thermo is working now and the temps seem stable.

If I actually do make a sunrise circuit I'll post it. That may be beyond my skill at the moment, but a timer for LEDs is easy. Either way I'm gonna look into it because it would be a nice look.
 
We keep the lights off as much as possible in the evenings and the baby tends to come out and roam then. Our older snake pretty much hides all the time now that he seems to be done looking for love.
 
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