ladyrepublica
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
My boyfriend got me a Spider Robotics thermostat for Christmas! It's so awesome and I love it already! Just wanted to say thanks to everyone because he got the recommendations here.:dancer:
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Early X-Mass
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ladyrepublica
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
The box says: "Herpstat Proportional Thermostat"
Already set it up and Scarlet loves it!
Already set it up and Scarlet loves it!
ladyrepublica
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
Dark green
robeyeshua
New member
hope you don't get upset
it's Christ - mas - please don't leave Him out - th'x and congrats on your gift
it's Christ - mas - please don't leave Him out - th'x and congrats on your gift
ladyrepublica
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
Lol, really?
ladyrepublica
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
Sorry, that was a little mean. I'm not Christian and I get tired of people going OMG CHRISTMAS all the time. I apologize for any offense.
ladyrepublica
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
None taken here its xmas theres not such thing as christ
Yeah, I'm a Unitarian Universalist and my boyfriend is an atheist, so there really is no "Christ"mas here, but we still do a secular Christmas. People get mad at me whenI wish them a "Happy Holidays" and it gets tiresome.
Nanci
Alien Lover
Okay! I'm going off-topic on one of my pet peeves!! X-mas is NOT heresy!!! My source is Wikipedia, but there are a million confirming sources.
Usage of X for Christ in ancient languages
For the article about the "ΧΡ" symbol see Chi Rho.
The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been abbreviated in English for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern "Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "XP" or "Xt"; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as AD 1021. This X and P arose as the uppercase forms of the Greek letters χ and ρ used in ancient abbreviations for Χριστος (Greek for "Christ"), and are still widely seen in many Eastern Orthodox icons depicting Jesus Christ. The labarum, an amalgamation of the two Greek letters rendered as ☧, is a symbol often used to represent Christ in Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox Christian Churches.[8]
The labarum, often called the Chi-Rho, is a Christian symbol representing Christ.
The occasionally held belief that the "X" represents the cross on which Christ was crucified also has no basis in fact. St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was probably shaped like a T or a †. Indeed, X-as-chi was associated with Christ long before X-as-cross could be, since the cross as a Christian symbol developed later. (The Greek letter Chi Χ stood for "Christ" in the ancient Greek acrostic ΙΧΘΥΣ ichthys.) While some see the spelling of Christmas as Xmas a threat, others see it as a way to honor the martyrs. The use of X as an abbreviation for "cross" in modern abbreviated writing (e.g. "King's X" for "King's Cross") may have reinforced this assumption.
In ancient Christian art, χ and χρ are abbreviations for Christ's name.[9] In many manuscripts of the New Testament and icons, X is an abbreviation for Christos, as is XC (the first and last letters in Greek, using the lunate sigma); compare IC for Jesus in Greek.
[edit] Usage in English
The Oxford English Dictionary and OED Supplement have cited usages of "X-" or "Xp-" for "Christ-" in 1485 ("Xpian"), 1598 ("Xpian"), and "Xtian" in 1845, 1915 and 1940. It cites "Xtianity" usage in 1634, 1811 and 1966. "Most of the evidence for these words comes from educated Englishmen who knew their Greek," according to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage, referring to the OED citations.[10]
In the United Kingdom and among the English, use of "Xmas" is found in a letter from January 13, 1753 (George Woodward to George London: "I find by ye Newsapers that several People have shewed a great Aversion to ye Alteration of ye Style; particularly with regard to ye Observation of Xmas Day").[11] Lord Byron used the term in 1811 ("If you won't come here before Xmas, [...]", letter, September 9, 1811).[10] Samuel Coleridge used it ("On Xmas Day I breakfasted with Davy", 1801)[3] as did Lewis Carroll ("[...] which I hope to get published before Xmas", letter, June 10, 1864). In the United States, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. also wrote it ("I expect about Xmas a visit", October 11, 1923).[10]
Since at least the late 19th century, "Xmas" has been in use in various other English-language nations. Quotations with the word can be found in texts written in Canada,[12] and the word has been used in Australia,[5] and in the Caribbean[13]
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage stated that modern use of the term is largely limited to advertisements, headlines and banners, where its conciseness is valued. The association with commerce "has done nothing for its reputation", according to the dictionary.[10]
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I just had this argument at work with two people Friday! Someone bought wrapping paper, and didn't know it said X-mas. So she was like, I can't use that, I'm returning it! Another co-worker chimes in. I tell them, wait, X is an abbreviation of Christ's name! It has nothing to do with "taking the Christ out of Christmas." But no, they didn't believe me, didn't believe my sources. Whatever.
Usage of X for Christ in ancient languages
For the article about the "ΧΡ" symbol see Chi Rho.
The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been abbreviated in English for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern "Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "XP" or "Xt"; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as AD 1021. This X and P arose as the uppercase forms of the Greek letters χ and ρ used in ancient abbreviations for Χριστος (Greek for "Christ"), and are still widely seen in many Eastern Orthodox icons depicting Jesus Christ. The labarum, an amalgamation of the two Greek letters rendered as ☧, is a symbol often used to represent Christ in Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox Christian Churches.[8]
The labarum, often called the Chi-Rho, is a Christian symbol representing Christ.
The occasionally held belief that the "X" represents the cross on which Christ was crucified also has no basis in fact. St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was probably shaped like a T or a †. Indeed, X-as-chi was associated with Christ long before X-as-cross could be, since the cross as a Christian symbol developed later. (The Greek letter Chi Χ stood for "Christ" in the ancient Greek acrostic ΙΧΘΥΣ ichthys.) While some see the spelling of Christmas as Xmas a threat, others see it as a way to honor the martyrs. The use of X as an abbreviation for "cross" in modern abbreviated writing (e.g. "King's X" for "King's Cross") may have reinforced this assumption.
In ancient Christian art, χ and χρ are abbreviations for Christ's name.[9] In many manuscripts of the New Testament and icons, X is an abbreviation for Christos, as is XC (the first and last letters in Greek, using the lunate sigma); compare IC for Jesus in Greek.
[edit] Usage in English
The Oxford English Dictionary and OED Supplement have cited usages of "X-" or "Xp-" for "Christ-" in 1485 ("Xpian"), 1598 ("Xpian"), and "Xtian" in 1845, 1915 and 1940. It cites "Xtianity" usage in 1634, 1811 and 1966. "Most of the evidence for these words comes from educated Englishmen who knew their Greek," according to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage, referring to the OED citations.[10]
In the United Kingdom and among the English, use of "Xmas" is found in a letter from January 13, 1753 (George Woodward to George London: "I find by ye News
apers that several People have shewed a great Aversion to ye Alteration of ye Style; particularly with regard to ye Observation of Xmas Day").[11] Lord Byron used the term in 1811 ("If you won't come here before Xmas, [...]", letter, September 9, 1811).[10] Samuel Coleridge used it ("On Xmas Day I breakfasted with Davy", 1801)[3] as did Lewis Carroll ("[...] which I hope to get published before Xmas", letter, June 10, 1864). In the United States, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. also wrote it ("I expect about Xmas a visit", October 11, 1923).[10]Since at least the late 19th century, "Xmas" has been in use in various other English-language nations. Quotations with the word can be found in texts written in Canada,[12] and the word has been used in Australia,[5] and in the Caribbean[13]
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage stated that modern use of the term is largely limited to advertisements, headlines and banners, where its conciseness is valued. The association with commerce "has done nothing for its reputation", according to the dictionary.[10]
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I just had this argument at work with two people Friday! Someone bought wrapping paper, and didn't know it said X-mas. So she was like, I can't use that, I'm returning it! Another co-worker chimes in. I tell them, wait, X is an abbreviation of Christ's name! It has nothing to do with "taking the Christ out of Christmas." But no, they didn't believe me, didn't believe my sources. Whatever.
robeyeshua
New member
i figured i'd start a fight
merry Christmas to all and Happy Holidays as well and yes, there is a Christ but i certainly respect your right to disagree and not believe - anyway guess i'll just talk about snakes from now on - lol
merry Christmas to all and Happy Holidays as well and yes, there is a Christ but i certainly respect your right to disagree and not believe - anyway guess i'll just talk about snakes from now on - lol
Pal-O-Mine
New member
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukah, ( was married to a jew for a while ) and for the others, ( you know who you are! ) have a Cool Yule! All our families came from somewhere else and all their different customs and beliefs are beautiful and add to the richness of this land. Eat too much, drink too much be thankful for what you have share that with those who don't and don't sweat the small stuff. Unless it involves scales!
Enjoy the blessings of the season!
B.B.
Devon
Enjoy the blessings of the season!
B.B.
Devon
ZoologyGirl
Under Tank Heather
I must spread some rep around before giving it to Nanci again
raynefyre
Taste the Rainbow
I hate it, it keeps telling me that too. Lol. Nanci would have 10 times more rep from me if it would allow me to do it. >.<
Nanci
Alien Lover
I hope you don't think I don't believe!! And I'm sure most other people respect your right to your beliefs, too. Although it's kind of a hot topic here when it comes up!
bapkate
Katherine
I repped her for both of you! Also for myself. I think about the X thing every time someone tries to use Xmas as a secular replacement for Christmas. Happy Holidays is always the safest bet!