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Eating problems...

Okke

Okke

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Hello ;-)

I bought some mising black corns about 5 months ago but they alway's (most of the times) have eating problems... When they eat living or dead mice they almost everytime puke their food up after a day of 5/6. Even though they still eat the mice every time without problems and even shed their skin almost every month without any problem. Also one of the snakes laid eggs without any problems. It seems to me when they have indigestion problems they also dont want to eat regulary and also having problems with shedding their skin and so on. But none of this is a problem because thats not the point. Although they dont take much food to make a big pile of crap (because they throw up there food after almost a week) Only they take a smile crap from time through time. But it doesnt look as it has to be :-( Does anyone know what kind of problem this snake's have? I kept many snakes for years ago but this thing did never happen before to me. So can anyone help me out?
 
Not sure I understand you perfectly.

Can you start by giving us the details: quantity you bought, what age they are, etc.

It is really serious when snakes regurge and they can die very quickly if they always regurge. You should read this thread. It contains the FAQ of Kathy Love about regurge.

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20965

What is your setup? Temp, humidity, hides, etc.
 
Thanks for your quick reaction ;-)

I keep them the same way like I alway's did by normal temperature and they have enough hiding spots in the enclosure where I keep them. I keep them at normal living room temparature's but if they want they can heat themselves by the lamps. They can take a bath (under one of the lamps if they want)Other snakes did never had these problems altough I think when i bought them they just came out of there hybernation period as I was told. They must been arround 3 years old and they did had eggs last year as told. But you and I both know that people say things sometime but is that true also? For now I keep them in an enclosure with a heatingmat under it so I have to wait and see I guess, mayby its also an idea to use nutri-bac for feeding the snakes with it also through inject the mice with it before eating them? puke01:
 
I almost forgot to mention I also keep snakes in the same enclosure who not have these regurge problems, but this threesome alway's seem to regurge even though they look very healthy and do not have other problems at all...
 
The better temp would be around 75 low temp and 85 hight temp. Normal temp don't help me very much since it depens where you live. I live in Canada and if I would put my snakes at room temperature, it would be too cold in winter and too hot in summer.

Yes nutribac inject in the mouse help but you really need to follow exactly the instructions as describe in the FAQ if you want to keep them for long.

You keep them in the same viv? How many are they?
 
There's so much wrong I'm not even sure where to start.

For one, you need to seperate your snakes immediately.

Secondly, you're contradicting yourself. In your first post you said they're regurging their food, but shedding fine and look healthy. Then two sentences later you're saying that they're having problems with their sheds. Which is it?

If you bought these snakes still in brumation and then offered them a full sized meal without warming them back up, that might be the start of the problem.

Regardless, you simply cannot keep feeding them food and having them puke it back up. If you keep that up, you are going to wind up with dead snakes.

You MUST seperate the snakes, and then try feeding them something much smaller, like a fuzzy. Make sure the temps are in the low 80's and if they hold the fuzzy down, feed another one. If it holds that down, gradually start moving up to small mice. After two fuzzies, feed two hoppers, then a small mouse or something.

I cannot stress enough that if you don't do something about the regurging your snakes are going to die.
 
Flying Dutchmen ;-)

Hello again,

I live in Holland so we use an other temp scale as yours but it is not a problem with my other kept snake's I guess its arround the same as your temperaure as you keep them in... I just looked its around 75 /85 so thats not the problem they also can choose how they want it a cool spot or a hot spot so that would make no different. I just think they got some sort of bacterial problem but just as I said they shed good alway's, they want to eat (in three or four weeks so I don't over feed them like that) alway's and they even lay eggs... You see I am not a beginner in this hobby because I breed different kinds of reptiles in the past but this is new for me. I did bred bearded dragons early'er this year. I breed years back lots of corns with almost no egg losses at all. I bred Tilliqua Scincoides Gigas and Sand boa's So you see I am not a beginner at all....
 
Joejr14 keep your eyes open and read better...

They do not have shedding problems so keep your comment to yourself ok... what kind of ass do you think I am I am not a beginner so don't begin talking crap like that ok!!!


Thank you ;-)
 
Okke said:
Joejr14 keep your eyes open and read better...

They do not have shedding problems so keep your comment to yourself ok... what kind of ass do you think I am I am not a beginner so don't begin talking crap like that ok!!!


Thank you ;-)
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Excuse me, sir, but my eyes are quite open.


Okee said:
When they eat living or dead mice they almost everytime puke their food up after a day of 5/6. ,b>Even though they still eat the mice every time without problems and even shed their skin almost every month without any problem.</b>
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Okee said:
It seems to me when they have indigestion problems they also dont want to eat regulary and <b>also having problems with shedding their skin and so on.</b>
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So again, which is it?
 
And I do not keep them together at this time with other snakes in the same enclosure anymore so dont think I am stupid....

Just to keep you updated.
 
Are you 100% positive that the snakes are regurgitating after 5 or 6 days? Your sure that it is a regurge and not feces?
 
breedingcolors said:
What are you trying to do Joe? Make all people go away??? Continue like this, you are on the good track. :mad:
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What are you talking about? Nothing I said was out of line.
 
I supossed if they had bad indegestion problems they would have problems with shedding their skin and not want to eat also and also don't liked to mate and lay eggs am I right?
 
Okke said:
I supossed if they had bad indegestion problems they would have problems with shedding their skin and not want to eat also and also don't liked to mate and lay eggs am I right?
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Regurgitating or a poor digestion problem has nothing to do with bad sheds. Bad sheds are a result of an incorrect environment, usually low humidity.

I'm still confused.

Didn't you say that one of the problem snakes laid eggs?
 
Joejr14 said:
What are you talking about? Nothing I said was out of line.
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This is not always about what you say but how you say it. You make people become aggressive.

I too notice that he had a couple of problems. Did I bash him? No. I asked him questions and try to help him. Not just trying to prove that I have all the answers and try to blast anyone who is making a mistake. You never did a mistake Joe?
 
Yes they still did eat and shed without problems and even one laid eggs without any problems. But the guy I bought them from did cool them off in the winter (hybernate) But I never did that myself. So just as you I am confussed what kind of problem they have because I keep snake many years without any problems like this. Maybe I bought a bad bunch maybe thats why they where that cheap 3 missing blacks from 2 and a half years old for about fifty euro's that would be around perhaps 70 dollars...
 
breedingcolors said:
This is not always about what you say but how you say it. You make people become aggressive.

I too notice that he had a couple of problems. Did I bash him? No. I asked him questions and try to help him. Not just trying to prove that I have all the answers and try to blast anyone who is making a mistake. You never did a mistake Joe?
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I asked him why he was contradicting himself in saying they didnt have shedding problems, but then later saying they did. I was trying to figure out which was the correct part.

I did not bash him. I never said that I have or had all the answers. The fact remains that if his snakes keep regurging their meals they are going to die---there's no disputing that if they are in fact regurging.
 
Okke said:
Yes they still did eat and shed without problems and even one laid eggs without any problems. But the guy I bought them from did cool them off in the winter (hybernate) But I never did that myself. So just as you I am confussed what kind of problem they have because I keep snake many years without any problems like this. Maybe I bought a bad bunch maybe thats why they where that cheap 3 missing blacks from 2 and a half years old for about fifty euro's that would be around perhaps 70 dollars...
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3 missing blacks? I don't understand.

My only suggestion would be to try and get a fecal done on all 3 of them, try some grapefruit seed extract or nutribac and skip down to smaller meals in hopes to stop them from regurging.
 
Taking a wild guess... Missing Blacks could mean Hypos maybe. Amels are missing more than black, I'm guessing...
 
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