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Evolution continues to march on : I Love Lucy

vetusvates

Gamaliel's Principle
I think I'm in love. My inner 'Therian' has been awakened. (That's a pun, folks. Look it up.)

Here's Lucy...

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But seriously, this is another major flagstone that almost completes the elaborate patio we now know as evolution.
Biological genealogists have found Lucy's, Australopithecus afarensis, male cousin.
He has the same elegant cognomen, Australopithecus afarensis, but like Lucy, needed something a little more anthropomorphically endearing, so the experts have affectionately named him 'Kadanuumuu'. He is a few years her senior, as he is 3.6 million to her youngish 3.2 million. But hey, they really really have a family resemblance.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/06/100621-lucy-early-humans-walking-upright-science/
 
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I have a hard time believing that Lucy looked like that, mostly because there weren't many bones found. I know rodents probably chewed on the bones long ago for the calcium, like they do with skeletons and antlers today, but to me there just aren't enough bones to piece together a whole being...

I wish they would have shown a picture of all the bones from the second find.
 
I have a hard time believing that Lucy looked like that, mostly because there weren't many bones found. I know rodents probably chewed on the bones long ago for the calcium, like they do with skeletons and antlers today, but to me there just aren't enough bones to piece together a whole being...

I wish they would have shown a picture of all the bones from the second find.

But they have at least three A. afarensis.

What do you think Lucy looked like?
 
I don't know. I just don't think there was enough skull to reconstruct a face... though I am probably wrong... I believe someone knew what they wanted to see in Lucy's face and made it so... Its like if I found a fragment of a skull and took it to someone. They learn its a native American skull and proceed to "reconstruct" a head, all around one small fragment... How in the world do they know that is what that native American looked like, from one small fragment? I don't think I will ever understand facial reconstruction, or how much of a skull is needed to do it accurately, or if it is ever accurate...

But really, they have 3? That is pretty freaking cool. Are they all from the same time frame?
 
Well, the male is .4 million years older. And then there's a baby which is .1 million years older. I'm more curious about what their skin and hair and nails and things like that were like. I think there are computer programs to reconstruct their skulls and the musculature that covers them, from fragments.
 
If you have enough of the facial bones, a physical anthropologist really can work with that to reconstruct the facial appearance. Of course, we can't tell from bones about skin color, hair color or eye color, but what can be done with the bones to rebuild an image of the living face is quite impressive.
 
I didn't think it was possible to rebuild a face from a lower jaw bone and the part of the skull right above one eye... But I must be wrong. They did an interesting job...

Do they think Lucy was an adolescent? or that the females are just that much smaller than the males?
 
Aaron, I think you are sorta right, actually. You can tell quite a lot from just those pieces, but not everything, you don't have full information on the midface (the upper jaw & nose) if that's all the fragments they had.
 
When you have evidence like the following, it doesn't take rocket science or quantum mechanics to interpolate or extrapolate, even if the extrapolation is retrograde.
We corn snake people gather here to share our expertise. We welcome the opportunity to share our expertise. We don't like people putting down our expertise.
Evolutionary anthropologists gather elsewhere. It is kind of them to allow us a window, from time to time, into their expertise.
One doesn't give the experts the beatdown for exercising or sharing their expertise.

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I expect it's possible to use temporally similar relations to fill in the gaps somewhat. If you've got a whole jaw bone and an eye ridge, that's a lot. You can assume symmetry for the other eye ridge. You can estimate the shape of the head based on the curvature of the back of the eye ridge piece. Nose is the only part that I think would have to be guesswork.
 
There are close to 400 specimens from A. afarensis. Even if you were just counting cranio-facial fragments, there are many. These don't all represent separate individuals, and some of these specimens are just one tooth, but there really are a lot for this species. It's an incredibly well-known fossil taxon. Every single fragment doesn't get a spread in Nat Geo or Science--that's usually reserved only for relatively complete skeletons, fragments that are remarkable for their geological age or location, or very controversial finds.

Facial reconstructions are based on composite crania formed from the fragments we have from many, many different individuals. That wouldn't be good enough to do a facial reconstruction that could differentiate between you and me, but the same techniques would be good enough to differentiate between a human and a gorilla. For Paranthropus aethiopicus, for which we only have parts of the cranial vault, sure, reconstructions are a stretch. But even then, you can tell a lot about the architecture of a missing mandible based on what you see in the maxilla and temporal bones, since they go together, you know (and because what we see in that species looks similar to what we see in closely related species, for which we DO have mandibles)? But in any case, the cranial architecture is very well understood for this species--we know what these guys looked like osteologically. Of course, the shape of the soft-tissue parts of the nose and hair coverage is anybody's guess.

Lucy is an adult. A. afarensis has long been known to have extreme sexual dimorphism in body size. So extreme, in fact, that there has been substantial debate about whether these specimens represent more than one species. It is more sexually dimorphic in body size than any living primate. None of the above is anything new.

The new information that Kadanuumuu contributes to understanding about A. afarensis is in the new skeletal elements it has that no other specimen has had. It has a scapula, a clavicle, and more ribs than were previously represented. So before, we didn't know what the scapula or clavicle actually looked like, and our guess about the shape of the ribcage was based on fewer ribs. The authors for Kadanuumuu state that the shoulder girdle looks more like a modern human than we had assumed before, and that the rib cage is shaped more like a modern human and less like a chimp than we had previously thought. Previous interpretations of A. afarensis locomotor behavior have been that, even though it was a biped, it must have retained some habitual climbing behavior because of its relatively long, curved finger and toe bones and relatively long arms. These authors conclude, based on the new shoulder morphology and the shape of the distal end of the tibia, that A. afarensis was an obligate biped that was doing no climbing at all. That's all that's new here--a few post-cranial elements and an interpretation of them that is at odds with previous interpretations of A. afarensis locomotion.

Keep in mind, though, that so far--just like with Ardipithecus (this is the same team)--only this team has actually looked at the fossils, and they are casting a new interpretation over all the osteological features that were already well-known and have been interpreted differently for some time. So whether their interpretation of the new find will be in line with the general consensus of other paleoanthropologists once other people get to look at the specimens remains to be seen. For example, I just got an earful about how robust the scapula appears to be compared to humans, which suggests the presence of a sizeable forelimb musculature. The orientation and robusticity of the scapular spine does appear human-like, but the rest of the blade looks more like a gorilla. Another example of differences in interpretation--this team's interpretation of the degree of sexual dimorphism in A. afarensis is that it is "similar" to that of humans. Nobody says that. Not even Outcast. Furthermore, Zerey (discoverer of Dikika baby), says he isn't completely convinced the new skeleton is A. afarensis since there's no cranium.

My point is that I always wait until more than one group of scientists has actually seen and interpreted the fossils before I accept anyone's new and fundamentally different interpretations of old bones. Some researchers are a little more circumspect in their interpretations of the fossils they find than others are. Some won't say anything until they're reasonably sure it makes sense in light of all the data we have available. Some are not so careful.

If you're interested, the new website at the Smithsonian is a nice one.
 
Evolutionary anthropologists gather elsewhere. It is kind of them to allow us a window, from time to time, into their expertise.
One doesn't give the experts the beatdown for exercising or sharing their expertise.
Criticize the experts all you want. They're not perfect, and they're not always going to be right. Just criticize them from an informed position.
 
Yes, thank you, Stephanie. Your posts are always a breath of fresh air. It is always a pleasure and a privilege to have you stop by in one of my humble threads.
 
Not only is that fascinating in its own right, Nanci, but it reminds me of a show I watched on the history channel this weekend.
It was about the oxymoron of America being discovered by Columbus in 1492. An oxymoron because America was never really lost.
It discussed archaelogical evidence, as well as evidence for why one native american tribe may look different from another, that stretched from 20,000+ years ago to 1421....and the 40+ different occasions when non-native americans landed at various key coastal areas of the US, from what is now Newfoundland to the gulf coast biloxi indian areas,...and from the land bridge of what is now alaska to the western shores of south america. This includes early chinese, japanese, polynesian visits,...and even viking and early african/egyptian sea journeys. Even the possibility of early irishmen and legends of early welshmen.
It was a fascinating show. I should have recorded it.
http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=263787&v=history&ecid=PRF-2103364&pa=PRF-2103364#tabs
http://www.examiner.com/x-36275-SF-Cable-TV-Examiner~y2010m6d20-Who-really-discovered-America
 
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