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henry2009

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I put my f2 in the gentic wizzard.
It was het amel het motley het bloodred my results were as follows.
42%normals(66 amel 66 motley 66 blodred
14%amel(66 bloodred 66 motley)
14%bloodred(66 amel 66 moltey)
4.69 amel, bloodred (66 moltey)
4.69 bloodred motley(66 amel)
4.69 amel, motley(66 bloodred)
1.56 bloodred, amel, motley

now on a big range of morphs what would i hold back not knowing for sure wich ones carried the genes. If i wanted say bloodred,amel, motley but it didn't show up on that hatchling. How do you know what you should try to breed again to try to achieve that. I hope that made sense. If not what would you breeders do if you had this pairing.
 
I don't know if amel or motley have "het markers", but some bloodred hets will have a "split" down the belly--the belly checkers don't meet up... Maybe someone can supply a picture of this, though, because I certainly don't have one. =) Het markers aren't a guarantee that that animal has that het; the markers just tend to show up mostly (if not exclusively) in animals with the said het.

If I were you, I would hold back the morphs. You've got more of a chance of hitting your target if you have some genes guaranteed. Match up and breed them when they're old/big enough, and switch them around the following years. If at least one parent has all of the genes you're trying to combine, breed offspring back to said parent(s)...

But then, this is only my first year breeding. I plan to have fun with my F2, too--amels het caramel stripe.. Mmm, butter stripes. Anyway, maybe someone with more experience can give you better advice, but this is just my take on it. Have fun! =)
 
The bloodred het markers may help a little in this case, but the motley plain belly will make that more difficult as you will have to only use the head markings in those. As mentioned, holding baxk those that you know are homozygous for as many genes as possible, hoping for the final one to be in het status, is the best way to go. In your example, I would hold back the fires (amel bloodred), bloodred motleys and amel motleys (especially if any showed the bloodred "bald" head - see example photo). The number of holdbacks depends upon your personal preference, but as many as possible is advised to not only impriove your chances of keeping a pair with all 3 genes, but also to increase your chances that you'll have at least a pair to survive to breeding age with extras in case you get a picky breeder that hates his/her chosen mate.

The first photo is of a hypo motley known to be het bloodred. His sister, who is also a hypo motley het bloodred, has a normal patterned head.

Next are 3 sibling caramels from a het caramel bloodred X het caramel bloodred pairing. I kept all the bloodreds, the caramel bloodred, and the one caramel female. The belly check pattern was normal on the last two hatchlings shown. As you can see, the one shows definite bloodred het markers, but only breeding trials will actually prove her out.
 
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