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jaxom1957

jaxom1957

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For a while now, I've been trying to collect a full listing of common or trade names for multiple morph combinations. I've found many, but others I've never seen referenced. This is a list of all two and three morph combinations, excluding pattern morphs, with what I think are the trade names. I'd appreciate any help either filling in the blanks or making corrections.

See Post #17 for Revised and Simplified List. Thanks!
 
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AMELANISTIC DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AM + AN: "SNOW"
AM + CA: "BUTTER"
AM + CH: "BLIZZARD"
AM + DF: "FIRE"
AM + HY: N/A
AM + LA: Lavamel
AM + LV: "OPAL"
AM + SK: N/A
AM + UL aka UM: "ULTRAMEL" <HET AMEL/ULTRA>
 
AMELANISTIC TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AM + AN + CA: N/A
AM + AN + CH: N/A
AM + AN + DF: "AVALANCHE"
AM + AN + HY: "CORAL" aka "CORAL SNOW"
AM + AN + LA: N/A
AM + AN + LV: "SNOPAL"
AM + AN + SK: N/A

AM + CA + CH: N/A
AM + CA + DF: "SULFUR"
AM + CA + HY: Hypo Butter
AM + CA + LA: N/A
AM + CA + LV: N/A
AM + CA + SK: Sunkissed Butter?

AM + CH + DF: "WHITEOUT"
AM + CH + HY: N/A
AM + CH + LA: N/A
AM + CH + LV: N/A
AM + CH + SK: N/A

AM + DF + HY: N/A
AM + DF + LA: N/A
AM + DF + LV: Opal Bloodred
AM + DF + SK: N/A

AM + HY + LA: N/A
AM + HY + SK: N/a
AM + HY + LV: N/a

AM + LA + SK: N/A
AM + LA + LV: N/A

AM + SK + LV: N/A
 
ANERYTHRISTIC DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AM + AN: "SNOW"
AN + CH: "COAL"
AN + CA: N/A (anery overrides caramel)
AN + DF: "GRANITE"
AN + HY: "GHOST"
AN + LA: "ICE"
AN + LV: Anery Lavs
AN + SK: Sunkissed Anerys
AN + UL: Ultramel Anery
 
ANERYTHRISTIC TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AM + AN + CA: Butter Snow
AM + AN + CH : N/A
AM + AN + DF: Avalanche
AM + AN + HY: Coral Snow
AM + AN + LA: N/A
AM + AN + SK: N/A
AM + AN + LV: Snopal

The rest are N/A, and you have a tremendous amount of repetition going on here.


AM + CA + CH:
AN + CA + DF:
AN + CA + HY:
AN + CA + LA:
AN + CA + SK:
AN + CA + UL:
AN + CA + LV:

AM + CH + DF:
AM + CH + HY:
AM + CH + LA:
AM + CH + SK:
AM + CH + LV:

AN + DF + HY:
AN + DF + LA:
AN + DF + LV:
AN + DF + SK:
AN + DF + UL:

AN + HY + LA:
AN + HY + LV:
AN + HY + SK:
AN + HY + UL:

AN + LA + SK:
AN + LA + UL:
AN + LA + LV:

AN + LV + SK:
AN + LV + UL:

AN + SK + UL:
 
Basically....

Any double homozygous morph with sunkissed in it is rare, and has no trade name.

That also holds true with lava, with the exception of Ice (anery) and Diamond (charcoal).

There are no trade names that correspond with 'ultramel'.

You also left out the 'Z' gene/morph, as well as Christmas hypo. Not a big deal, because there are no trade names for any combos of those.
 
LAVA DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AM + LA: Lavamel
AN + LA: Ice
CA + LA:
CH + LA: Diamond
DF + LA:
HY + LA:
LA + LV: Lava Lav
LA + SK:
LA + UL:

Joe Pierce can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe there are any triple homozygous lava snakes, other than maybe an ice motley or something.

LAVA TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AM + AN + LA:
AM + CA + LA:
AM + CH + LA:
AM + DF + LA:
AM + HY + LA:
AM + LA + LV:
AM + LA + SK:

AN + CA + LA:
AN + CH + LA:
AN + DF + LA:
AN + HY + LA:
AN + LA + LV:
AN + LA + SK:
AN + LA + UL:

CH + CA + LA:
CH + DF + LA:
CH + HY + LA:
CH + LA + LV:
CH + LA + SK:
CH + LA + UL:

CA + DF + LA:
CA + HY + LA:
CA + LA + LV:
CA + LA + SK:
CA + LA + UL:

DF + HY + LA:
DF + LA + LV:
DF + LA + SK:
DF + LA + UL:

HY + LA + LV:
HY + LA + SK:
HY + LA + UL:

LA + LV+ SK:
LA + LV + UL:

LA + SK + UL:
 
Correcting the Original Post

As more trade names are added, I am editing the original post. Hopefully, the end result will be as complete a list as the members can think of. I appreciate the help, but I don't want to fill the thread with "Thank You" notes. I do thank all those who choose to participate.
 
The rest are N/A, and you have a tremendous amount of repetition going on here.
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I have each combination listed under each morph. Would it be better if I only listed them once, under whichever included morph is alphabeticallly first? IE, any morph in combination with amel would only appear under amel?
 
carol said:
WTF? AN + CH = COAL???? Where did that come from?
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I've been jotting them down in a text file for a few months now, so I couldn't tell you where most came from. If that one isn't acceptable, I can remove it, as I did "AmelLav". Is there a different trade name for Anery A/Anery B?
 
jaxom1957 said:
I have each combination listed under each morph. Would it be better if I only listed them once, under whichever included morph is alphabeticallly first? IE, any morph in combination with amel would only appear under amel?
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It's not so much that, it's just that the list seems very daunting. Probably half of it are repeated 'combos', and the other half is split 50/50 with accepted trade names, and combos that don't exist yet.

Most of your tripe homozygous bloodred combos don't exist. Certainly nothing with bloodred and sunkissed---at least that we're aware of.
 
Joejr14 said:
It's not so much that, it's just that the list seems very daunting. Probably half of it are repeated 'combos', and the other half is split 50/50 with accepted trade names, and combos that don't exist yet.
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I set the morphs up as a matrix, then listed all possible two and three morph combinations resulting from that, whether they existed yet or not. That created a master document that could then be filled in as I learned the trade name, new morph combinations were achieved, or trade names were agreed upon.

The simplified list, removing repetitions:

Legend:
AM = Amelanistic
AN = Anerythristic
CA = Caramel
CH = Anerythristic B (Charcoal)
DF = Diffused
HY = Hypomelanistic
LA = Hypomelanistic (Lava)
LV = Lavender
SK = Hypomelanistic (Sunkissed)
UL = Hypomelanistic (Ultra)
UM - *Ultramel (Note, this is a het version of ultra and amel)


AMELANISTIC DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AM + AN: "SNOW"
AM + CA: "BUTTER"
AM + CH: "BLIZZARD"
AM + DF: "FIRE"
AM + HY:
AM + LA: "LAVAMEL"
AM + LV: "OPAL"
AM + SK:
AM + UL aka UM: "ULTRAMEL" <HET AMEL/ULTRA>

AMELANISTIC TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AM + AN + CA:
AM + AN + CH:
AM + AN + DF: "AVALANCHE"
AM + AN + HY: "CORAL" aka "CORAL SNOW"
AM + AN + LA:
AM + AN + LV: "SNOPAL", "LAVENDER SNOW"
AM + AN + SK:

AM + CA + CH:
AM + CA + DF: "SULFUR"
AM + CA + HY: "HYPO BUTTER"
AM + CA + LA:
AM + CA + LV:
AM + CA + SK: "SUNKISSED BUTTER" ?

AM + CH + DF: "WHITEOUT"
AM + CH + HY:
AM + CH + LA:
AM + CH + LV:
AM + CH + SK:

AM + DF + HY:
AM + DF + LA:
AM + DF + LV: "OPAL BLOODRED"
AM + DF + SK:

AM + HY + LA:
AM + HY + SK:
AM + HY + LV"

AM + LA + SK:
AM + LA + LV:

AM + SK + LV:

NOTE: AM + UL = UM: "ULTRAMEL" See "ULTRAMEL COMBINATIONS"

ANERYTHRISTIC DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AN + CH: "COAL" ?
AN + CA:
AN + DF: "GRANITE"
AN + HY: "GHOST"
AN + LA: "ICE"
AN + LV: "ANERY LAV"
AN + SK: "SUNKISSED ANERY"
AN + UL: "ULTRA ANERY"

ANERYTHRISTIC TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
AN + CA + DF: "BUTTER SNOW"
AN + CA + HY:
AN + CA + LA:
AN + CA + SK:
AN + CA + UL:
AN + CA + LV:

AN + CH + DF:
AN + CH + HY:
AN + CH + LA:
AN + CH + SK:
AN + CH + LV:

AN + DF + HY:
AN + DF + LA:
AN + DF + LV:
AN + DF + SK:
AN + DF + UL:

AN + HY + LA:
AN + HY + LV:
AN + HY + SK:
AN + HY + UL: "ULTRA GHOST"

AN + LA + SK:
AN + LA + UL:
AN + LA + LV:

AN + LV + SK:
AN + LV + UL:

AN + SK + UL:

ANERYTHRISTIC B (CHARCOAL) DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
CA + CH:
CH + DF: "PEWTER"
CH + HY: "PHANTOM"
CH + LA: "DIAMOND"
CH + LV:
CH + SK:
CH + UL:

ANERYTHRISTIC B (CHARCOAL) TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
CA + CH + DF:
CA + CH + HY:
CA + CH + LA:
CA + CH + LV:
CA + CH + SK:
CA + CH + UL:

CH + DF + HY:
CH + DF + LA:
CH + DF + LV:
CH + DF + SK:
CH + DF + UL:

CH + HY + LA:
CH + HY + LV:
CH + HY + SK:
CH + HY + UL:

CH + LA + SK:
CH + LA + UL:
CH + LA + LV:

CH + LV + UL:
CH + LV + SK:

CH + SK + UL:

CARAMEL DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
CA + DF:
CA + HY: "AMBER"
CA + LA:
CA + LV:
CA + SK:
CA + UL: "ULTRA AMBER"

CARAMEL TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
CA + DF + HY:
CA + DF + LA
CA + DF + LV:
CA + DF + SK:
CA + DF + UL:

CA + HY + LA:
CA + HY + LV:
CA + HY + SK
CA + HY + UL:

CA + LA + LV:
CA + LA + SK:
CA + LA + UL

CA + LV + SK:
CA + LV + UL:

CA + SK + UL:

DIFFUSED DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
DF + HY:
DF + LA:
DF + LV: "PLASMA"
DF + SK:
DF + UL:

DIFFUSED TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
DF + HY + LA:
DF + HY + SK:
DF + HY + UL:
DF + HY + LV:

DF + LA + SK:
DF + LA + UL:
DF + LA + LV:

DF + LV + SK:
DF + LV + UL:

DF + SK + UL:

HYPOMELANISTIC DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
HY + LA: "LAVAMEL"
HY + LV:
HY + SK:
HY + UL:

HYPOMELANISTIC TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
HY + LA + LV:
HY + LA + SK:
HY + LA + UL:

HY + LV + SK:
HY + LV + UL:

HY + SK + UL:

LAVA DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
LA + LV: "LAVA LAV"
LA + SK:
LA + UL:

LAVA TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
LA + LV+ SK:
LA + LV + UL:
LA + SK + UL:


LAVENDER DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
LV + UL:
SK + LV:

LAVENDER TRIPLE MORPH COMBINATIONS:
LV + SK + UL:

SUNKISSED DUAL MORPH COMBINATIONS:
SK + UL:

ULTRAMEL COMBINATIONS:
AN + UM: "ANERY ULTRAMEL", "ULTRA GHOST"
CA + UM: "GOLDDUST" aka "ULTRAMEL CARAMEL"
CH + UM: "CHARCOAL ULTRAMEL"
DF + UM: "DIFFUSED (OR BLOODRED) ULTRAMEL"
HY + UM: "HYPO ULTRAMEL"
LA + UM: "LAVA ULTRAMEL"
SK + UM: "SUNKISSED ULTRAMEL"
LV + UM: "LAVENDER ULTRAMEL"
 
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Joejr14 said:
It's not so much that, it's just that the list seems very daunting. Probably half of it are repeated 'combos', and the other half is split 50/50 with accepted trade names, and combos that don't exist yet.
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I would have found it daunting if I'd tried to do it in one sitting. I took one morph at a time, typed out the combinations, then took a break. It took several sessions to type out and my research into trade names is obviously ongoing. One of the reasons I decided to include combinations that I was fairly sure didn't exist yet was inspiration. I thought by looking at some of those that didn't exist, I or another would be inspired to set up that breeding trial, to take that next step. We can't expect Joe Pierce to do it all, can we? :)
 
Joejr14 said:
AN + DF: "GRANITE"
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Aaaahhh! So THAT's what a granite is!!! lol Been wondering! I have heard them being called "Pepper" corns...lol :grin01:

Also never heard of a "Coal" corn before...very interesting!! :)
 
AN + UL does not make an ultramel anery. It makes an ultra anery. And the name ultra ghost is for the triple AN + HY + UL.
HY + UL does not make an ultra amber, CA + UL make an ultra amber.
I have not seen the name hypo butter used to describe a golddust (ultramel caramel), only a AM + CA + HY.
The list is difficult to go through as it is written, especially with all the notes on ultramels. You may want to just put all the ultramel combos in one spot.
 
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