Frivolous picture posting...

[Rich Z]

This is in reference to those pics that are uploaded to posts via the attachment function.

I've been reading references here about members engaging in this practice, somewhat in reference to "pandas". Some are claiming that it's a harmless practice, but I want to point out something that perhaps not everyone realizes. Disk space is finite. Bigger disks cost more money for the server. Right now the attachments consume nearly 9 gigabytes of disk storage. I had to have the attachments disassociated with the data file backup process I do every day, simply because that much additional storage would make the backup file way too large to deal with.

So in effect, those frivolously posted attachment photos are a drain on the server's resource, plus they take a hit on overall available bandwidth everytime someone views a post with them embedded within it.

So yes, those frivolous photos CAN definitely be harmful, and I am requesting everyone to THINK about what they are doing and consider who has to pay for those resources that are being unnecessarily squandered. Posting photos is just fine if that are about the topic at hand and actually RELEVANT to the discussion.

I just recently got a pretty high powered (and expensive) server not all that long ago, and I certainly do not want to go through that process again too soon if the hard drives start getting dangerously filled up.

If you have those photos linked on your own server or a photo storage utility site, then no problem. Unless that server or utility goes on the blink or suddenly stops handling remote calls for those images. Which has happened in the past.

So please bear this in mind.... Those "innocent" frivolous photos all do have a price attached to them in resource allocations that everyone has to bear.

 

[Nanci]

Rich, one of the things that I really, really, really appreciate about this site is the "unlimited" amount of pictures we are allowed to post. Some other forums only allow a certain amount of space, so you rather quickly get to the point of having to delete previous pics to be able to post new pics. I've _always_ wondered about the cost of this, to you, and have been thankful that you have not put a limit on it, other than now, good common sense. I think it's one of the things that makes this site so very special- that we are allowed to share in pictures the loves of our lives. While I am not a panda-hater, if I never see another one, or even very few of them, it's no skin off my back.

 

[wade]

I don’t care about pandas but many of the pictures are an integral part of the whole CS.com experience. J9’s Day at the Stable thread for example, and Nanci’s turtle pond. I think those are pretty important and totally not cornsnake related.

 

[Rich Z]

I don’t care about pandas but many of the pictures are an integral part of the whole CS.com experience. J9’s Day at the Stable thread for example, and Nanci’s turtle pond. I think those are pretty important and totally not cornsnake related.

Perhaps you need to re-read my post. Please note the comment about photos that are relevant to the topic.

What I am referring to is people who will intentionally post photos to take a thread off topic or really serve no purpose but to derail a conversation. I don't believe I stated anywhere that all photos everywhere MUST be cornsnake related. If anyone is under that impression, I apologize.

 

[Rich Z]

I paid u 25 dollars this year for just having this site. I also buy a lot from other paying members who have paid their dues. I know what a site costs to run, maintain, bandwidth, etc. I link my pics thru, they're not hosted on here. If I post an ocassional panda pic hosted on my own bandwidth> Is there a problem with that? dave

Not unless a mod feels that it is disruptive.

Posting photos linked from another server will not impact the resources of my server, but obviously the person viewing the post will have the bandwidth concerns needed to download that image from the remote server to their own browser.

I recall one time going to a site that allowed pretty nearly unlimited size and dimensioned images in everyone's signature area, and obviously the members were taking full advantage of that perk. Quite frankly, I got tired of the enormous wait times for each page to display because of all those huge images, so I just never went back there. And I have a pretty quick ISP connection. Lord help anyone who would go there on dial-up.

So as you can see, there are no free lunches with this stuff. I try to give everyone as much as I can, but on occasion I may have to put on the brakes. For instance the original DYK thread that appeared to be affecting the entire site because the server had to process that entire thread for everyone who was viewing it. Obviously, DYK2 will eventually have to suffer the same fate, unfortunately. I can't allow such things, no matter how much fun for everyone, to kill the site in the process of having that fun. Those dragon egg thingies in some members' signature areas were another such issue.

So all I ask is that everyone try to be cognizant of the limitations of this medium and be courteous to other members by being reasonable about what you ask of the resources here.

 

[LBoz]

Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is for RichZ to open up his rep point counter now that he's retired.

C'mon, big guy....let us share the love!!

 

[Rich Z]

Actually I do need to do something about those super high points I see. It's producing a snowball effect that might affect the system when those numbers go beyond what the developers thought anyone might possibly accumulate. Sure would be embarrassing for that to crash the site and corrupt the database. Sometimes exceeding the designers' specs will put you into the state of "results will be unpredictable"..... Meaning, "we never thought anyone would DO that!"

 

[LBoz]

Me and my big mouth.

 

[diamondlil]

I could definately live without the panda pictures, personally.

 

[desertanimal]

Dave, he didn't say he was upset about the pandas. All he said was that pandas, like every other picture, cost the site money, and he asked us to think about that when we post pictures--pandas or otherwise. I think that's a fair request.

 

[Rich Z]

RichZ,

cognizant
well, it's #3 on google.
I Have enormous respect for you richz,
The cornsnake community seems to be a larger diversified community these days'
and the internet has taken on numerous people
not many are able to do reptiles exclusively these days
and have to do jobs for http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the+man
to supplement their income.
Once in awhile I know I get a bit whacked online and need a visual clue it is time to settle down. Pamdas are a clue to that now that I've learned the ins and outs of this cornsnake.com community,
which I have been
active in
It does indeed take awhile to get used to processing all of this barrage of cornsnakes.com material in a cognitively congealing logic. Unfortunately, sometimes individuals, whom might be incredible geniuses in their own specialized fields,

get emotionally tweaked out about petty stuff

and then theres name calling and other craziness,
but in the end they all adore corn/snakes,

there's a broader community here then I would have ever considered embracing 10 years ago thanks to this internet thingy.

I'm sorry you find pandas offensive; they've saved me a couple of times, from 30 day vacayshuns, while perhaps in their own way signifying it might be time to send personal emails

Granted,

(And did I mention I have enormous respect for you-
for what you've done with an American native species (like Western Bonsai) and giving it global appeal-)

Granted- theres a lot of bs on the site, I had to do a lot of site searches to glean nuggets of info here and there...
A lot could be dumped and not missed.
I won't deny there's some dreadful threads which take up a lot of server space, have no useful info, (delete it) and it seems to me that as site owner, own a lot of hosted information. Yeah Rich, I do have a lot of respect for you. But getting upset over Pandas? What if we substitute Pangolins for Pandas in the future? At least they have scales.
;0 dp

I think you missed the point by a VERY wide margin....

 

[wstphal]

Rich, I can sympathize. I work at an office where we scan hundreds of pieces of paper a day as jpgs. We have had to buy a bigger server & a bigger RAID array just to store all those expletive-deleted jpgs.

 

[Lucille]

have no useful info

That's a pretty subjective judgment there. What it useful for one person may have no relevance for another.


I'm not very tech savvy, but I'm thinking that pictures might take more space than words?

All the request stated is that one should consider before one posts a picture that is symbolic and doesn't have anything to do with the conversation at hand. If the panda concept is useful to you, perhaps a pretty pink in letters rather than images might help: PANDA

 

[snakewispera snr]

That's a pretty subjective judgment there. What it useful for one person may have no relevance for another.


I'm not very tech savvy, but I'm thinking that pictures might take more space than words?

All the request stated is that one should consider before one posts a picture that is symbolic and doesn't have anything to do with the conversation at hand. If the panda concept is useful to you, perhaps a pretty pink in letters rather than images might help: PANDA

Looks nothing like a panda.....
PANDA.... Would be better, except makes no sense now that I look at it......

 

[Lucille]

Mike that was clever, I like it!!! You think outside the box....

 

[snakewispera snr]

Mike that was clever, I like it!!! You think outside the box....

Awww thank you. Most people think I should be in a box, usually padded....

 

[wstphal]

I'm not very tech savvy, but I'm thinking that pictures might take more space than words?

Yep, lots more room!

All the request stated is that one should consider before one posts a picture that is symbolic and doesn't have anything to do with the conversation at hand. If the panda concept is useful to you, perhaps a pretty pink in letters rather than images might help: PANDA

Or how about
PANDA PORN

 

[Lucille]

, I will refrain from posting pics irrelevant to c/s in the future

Dave

I think it is OK to post pics that are not of cornsnakes. If we are discussing dogs it is I am thinking OK to post dog pix. I think it is just not OK to post pix irrelevant to the thread; if we are discussing dogs, and someone is in a mood, don't post pandas.

I could be wrong, but that is what I thought.

 

[Suzy]

Dave

I think it is OK to post pics that are not of cornsnakes. If we are discussing dogs it is I am thinking OK to post dog pix. I think it is just not OK to post pix irrelevant to the thread; if we are discussing dogs, and someone is in a mood, don't post pandas.

I could be wrong, but that is what I thought.

What I got from it was similar to this. I think that Rich just doesn't want us to attach pictures of pandas on the forum. If they are hosted offsite (photobucket or something similar.) then that doesn't affect the amount of memory that is being used by the server. See the quote below:

If you have those photos linked on your own server or a photo storage utility site, then no problem. Unless that server or utility goes on the blink or suddenly stops handling remote calls for those images. Which has happened in the past.

I don't have a problem either way with pandas. However, I will say that I have seen panda pictures being used too early - or when it's not even necessary - and it takes the original topic off topic which I'm sure can be very annoying to some people.

 

[ruraldean]

Hey Rich - Bet you wish you'd never mentioned the word Panda? :rofl: