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Ghost Project

OCsnakeman

OCsnakeman

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I have a female ghost who I am debating breeding ... I am curious what some interesting combinations would be ... I have never done a project involving ghosts before, and would be interested in any possible outcomes or ideas you have! Thanks for the info in advance :)

I know she is still young, but if I am going to have a mate for her I would prefer to raise him from hatchling....Here are a few shots of her...
http://www.geocities.com/ocsnakeman/Phantom.html

OC :)
 
Almost looks like a charcoal ghost in one of those pics.

With a ghost you're dealing with Anery A (or Charcoal) and Hypo A.

If you were to breed it with an Anery, you'd get all anery, het for hypo.

Vice versa....breed it to a hypo and get all hypo het anery.


I believe you're looking for some more intruiging combos though.
If you do it this way, you wont get anything exciting in the F1.
You could do something like: (Ghost x Amber)= 100% hypo, het for anery and caramel.

I'd either find a ghost to pair with, or find a higher end double homo or triple homo cultivar you like that has something in common--either Anery or Hypo, or find something simple you like that has a het for something you're interested in.
 
Well, first off, it really depends a lot on what you would like to see as your future offspring. There are lots of ideas of pairings that could be used depending on what outcome you like to see yourself.

You could go with trying to create banded ghosts, in which case you will want to get a banded mate for her and preferrably one with hypo as a homo or het.

You could do just a regular breeding to make a variety of hypo types depending on what she is het for.

You could go for ghost motleys which would mean getting a motley with a hypo gene in it and keeping some offspring and breeding them back to each other.

You could get one of the newer known genes, the Ultra, and work on getting the ultra into the ghost line.

There are many types of things you could do. My suggestion is look around at the varied looks and types of snakes are pictured out there that involve hypo/ghost gene and see what turns your fancy. Then find the mate that will help you to that end the best.

Good luck. :)
 
could you breed your ghost with a bloodred, if it would work i think it could come out amazing.. :rolleyes:
 
Cool

Great ideas guys ....

I do have a male bloodred who is similar in age ... but what in the world would you get out of that?

I was thinkin of bringing banded or striped into it... however, im not sure of her Hets or her exact genes, since she was a Pet store buy. I appreciate the feedback ... keep the ideas comin! I'm lookin for all possible combos here people :) give me some good ideas ... gonna have a spare 10-gallon comin up soon!

OC
 
Well, breeding your ghost to a bloodred will give you a lot of hets in the first generation. It is the second generation that you get a lot of fun stuff. Bloodreds, hypos, aneries, ghosts, hypo blood, anery blood, ghost blood and of course, more various hets.
 
As everyone has said, it all comes down to what YOU want. If you're interested in something other than normal offspring in the F1, you need to get a male homozygous or het for anery and/or hypo. You can add more traits in the F2 by getting a male with additional traits, such as a ghost motley or stripe. My own personal ghost project involves their color...I'm selectively breeding for extra pink/peach ghosts and ghost motleys.
 
OC I think the ghost X bloodred would be a great project to start with...all the normal looking hets with the outcrossed blood influence would be sweeeeeet...you could hold back a few pairs to breed for ghost bloods...you can cross them out to other bloodred combo's to strengthen your line...you can also cross the ghost with your jungle for triple het jungles...Your got a good place to start right now, IMO...
 
wow that si amazing i actaully contributed some usefull information, but i was wondering if you would breed your ghost with a bloodred i know not the first clutch but i was wondering what the colors on the new hatchlings would be, i would be looking forward to a more candycane look, but you could also have thin parallel strypes, but i also saw a ghost/bloodred that was mostly white and it had a freckle apperance withe the blood reds colors, sjut scattered dots of red. :grabbit: :grabbit:
 
I think what you mangrove saw was a ruby freckled, not a ghost/bloodred. Are you asking what the babies would look like if you bred the f1 generation together? It would depend on what type of bloodred you had.

If you bred the a ghost and a regular bloodred together, you would get all normals het for hypo, anery a and bloodred in your first generation. If you bred the babies of them together you would get normals, anerys, ghosts, hypos, bloodreds, anery bloodreds, hypo bloodreds, and ghost bloodreds. I'm not sure what the ghost bloodreds would look like. I woul assume a less patterened and maybe lighter ghost.

Now if you bred a hypo bloodred and a ghost together, your first generation would be all hypos het for anery a and bloodred. If you were to breed those babies together, it wouldn't be too different. You would get hypos, ghosts, anery bloodreds and ghosts bloodreds. It depends on what you want to see the most.

To get a "candycane look" you would need to throw an amel gene in there, and to get any striping, the same thing applies. You would have to throw a striping gene. A candycane is also just a selectively bred trait of amel that has little to no orange in the background, leaving just the white (or as much white as possible) and its not possible to be het for candycane. You can breed a candy cane to a candy cane and get just normal amels. Just the luck of the draw. Bloodreds have a tendency to erase most of the striping as adults. You'll see it in a hatchling, but you may not see it for long.

OC-I would personally go with maybe a banded or motley ghost. I love how the motley just softens the colors a little more. Banded ghosts aren't something that you see too often, so that would be way cool, but thats just my opinion.
 
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