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Hello, and an Anery A/Bloodred question...

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Tess

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Hi, all!

This place is great! It has been a wonderful resource as I go about starting my cornsnake journey...I have read tons and tons of your past posts already, so thank you to you all, first off!

I'm Tess. I'm 25 and live in Wisconsin with my fiance (September 27th is our wedding date...coming up fast!) and our pets. We have four ferrets and three cats. I work in insurance compliance/regulations, and he's a computer programmer and IT consultant. For fun, we do a lot of gaming with friends (tabletop and computer) and ride our motorcycles (Suzuki V-Stroms).

As part of a high-stakes, cutthroat deal we negotiated--okay, not really, I just green-lighted his big-screen tv purchase and he green-lighted the snake in return--I'm looking to purchase my first corn snake.

I have one wee question to start with, since I'm very much still just a layman and learning about everything, especially morphs (Kathy's book is on the way, too!): I am meeting with a breeder at the end of the month to choose a snake. I told her that I was interested in predominantly red-less, black/grey snakes, and she is going to have me look at two different sorts. One she has listed as "anery/charcoal," which I believe is Type B aneryistic...? and the other is an anery A/bloodred, which is what I think is commonly called "granite," although I've seen debate on that...?

So my question is really this: From the perspective of a completely untrained eye, and using only simple visual/colour descriptions, what is the practical difference between the colourations/patternings of adult Type A anerys and Type B anerys, and what, further, is the difference between those and an "anery A/bloodred" variety?

I sort of understand that the type B's are missing more yellow? And maybe bloodreds will just not have the definite black saddles...? But I am really just looking for descriptions like, "Well, X will grow up more brown with clearer markings, and Y will have more grey and diffusion" or something like that...I look at pictures of these types online and I'm embarrassed to admit that I can't see much of a difference.

Thanks for your help!
 
This is an excellent reference:

http://www.iansvivarium.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/cornsnakemorphs.html

(Don't forget to check out Milksnake Phase and see my babe Cherry (adult)!

I'd go for the granite, because I think it's a prettier snake. He'll have a more subtle pattern and a beautiful white belly. Plus, you can use that bloodred gene in combination with some other snake you get later! (It's nearly impossible to stop at one!) It will likely be more expensive, I'd estimate double the price. Remember, the babies look nothing like the eventual adult!

Anyway, if you look at Ian's Vivarium, and if you do a search on this site, you'll get to see what the adults look like, and make your choice!
 
To actually answer your question:
I can tell you have done some reading and have some understanding of corn morphs so I hope I don’t repeat too much.

Basically Anery is a trait that takes away the red colors. Anery A is the most common and as the snake matures it will get some yellow color on the sides of it’s head, chin, and neck area.

Charcoal is the name that has been given to the second type or Anery B. Charcoals are generally darker in color with less contrast between the ground color and the saddles. It may still develop yellow as it ages same as Anery A.

You have added a third morph with Diffused. This is often called Blood Red (which has nothing to do with color) This is a pattern morph instead of a color morph. Diffused snakes have no belly checkers, the pattern on the side of the snake becomes blurred and the head pattern gets stretched.

Now combine Anery A with Diffused and you get Granite. You will see the color traits of the Anery and the pattern traits of the Diffused. With granite snakes the pink color is sometimes bolder (more in males than females) and that is where the Granite name comes from.

Which is better. That is for you to decide.
 
Welcome, and enjoy. Congrats on your upcoming wedding, and Nanci's right; it's nearly impossible to stop with one! Enjoy your corn shopping.
 
Oh, wow! Thanks, everyone. I am using all of the great resources you have given me here and I am starting to pick up on the visual nuances I was asking about.

Now my only question is: how did "planning on getting one cornsnake" evolve so quickly into "planning on getting three cornsnakes now and a mazillion more later?

This is like live-action Pokemon for responsible adults, ha!
 
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