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Help with colour morph?
- Thread starter kristakat
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here i attached a pic i hope it works
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DMong
colubrid connoisseur
I tend to agree from what I can make out in the not-so-great photo. I think I can just make out some faint longitudinal striping, as well as faint blotching if I am not mistaking. Better pics would definitely help out with this ID. The vivid orange/red dorsum and butter yellow on the belly that was mentioned, and lack of chevroning on the head does sound like it could easily be an Everglades ratsnake, or rat cross of any of the various solid orange cornsnake morphs x yellow rat or Everglades.
Better, more vivid, larger pics are pretty much a must for better IDing here. Belly shots would certainly help alot too.
~Doug
I posted some pics in the Photo gallery, i hope they are better. I'll try and get a belly shot in a few mins here. But the belly is butter coloured, and more white near the end. sorta strange... ill take one.
Here are some more pics of the snake, including belly shots!
Sorry the pics aren't awesome quality, all i got is my iPhone camera right now D:
Sorry the pics aren't awesome quality, all i got is my iPhone camera right now D:
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DMong
colubrid connoisseur
AHH!,..NOW we are getting somewhere!
That is an Everglades ratsnake, and not a cornsnake at all. It could have some Yellow Rat influence of course somewhere in there, as that can be VERY typical of many locales and bloodlines, but all the characteristics I see there now are 100% Everglades.........guaranteed!
They many times will retain remnants of their blotch pattern like that too.
The head, coloration, pattern, belly, white flecking on the sides ALL says Everglades!
Thanks for the better pics.
~Doug
That is an Everglades ratsnake, and not a cornsnake at all. It could have some Yellow Rat influence of course somewhere in there, as that can be VERY typical of many locales and bloodlines, but all the characteristics I see there now are 100% Everglades.........guaranteed!
They many times will retain remnants of their blotch pattern like that too.
The head, coloration, pattern, belly, white flecking on the sides ALL says Everglades!
Thanks for the better pics.
~Doug
Susan
Go Ahead, Make My Day!
I just Googled Everglade rats And I think you're right! Could it even be a hypo Everglades rat?
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
Yes, it could be a hypo Everglades as a matter of fact, or simply a very faint-patterned normal Everglades. Most hypo strains are VERY vividly colored with faint to no pattern at all. Quite often camera settings and lighting situations can make a snake look VERY different than it actually looks like in real life, so it is a bit tough to say for certain from those particular photos, but yes, it could be a hypo. If it is a bit browner orange/red then it is probably a less patterned normal, but if it is very intense and brightly colored, it is probably a hypo.
Bill Love first originated the hypos into the hobby in the the very late 80's and 90's, and Andy Barr originated another far less common smaller strain later on.
Here are a few transition pics of a normal locality bloodline I used to have
~Doug
Do some more image search googling and you will see plenty of hypos too. some friends of mine work with some KILLER hypo bloodlines!. Jeff Cochran just as one example has some real mind-blowers!
Bill Love first originated the hypos into the hobby in the the very late 80's and 90's, and Andy Barr originated another far less common smaller strain later on.
Here are a few transition pics of a normal locality bloodline I used to have
~Doug
Do some more image search googling and you will see plenty of hypos too. some friends of mine work with some KILLER hypo bloodlines!. Jeff Cochran just as one example has some real mind-blowers!
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
Sounds good to me!........they can all very some, but hypos are EXTREMELY vivid and bright compared to normals, even the more reduced pattern types.
BTW, only the irises of the eye are orange, and not the pupils, the pupils are dark.
Anyway, you now know it ain't a cornsnake, and is a DEFINITE Everglades Ratsnake!..LOL!
Have fun with it!
~Doug
I shall, i've never had one of these guys before, but i got a few different books on rat snakes so this should be fun. =)
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
Absolutely........
Their care is basically just as with cornsnakes, and they are very hardy as long as you make sure to give them an under tank thermogradient to properly digest their meals, a place to hide, and room to climb a bit with branches, etc..
Good thing you have some books too, because FAR too many people in this hobby now don't bother to read hardly any book information now with the arrival of today's internet. I have a stack of snake books several feet thick, and have read about snakes for over four decades no. This forms a great base of knowledge that you can hone with other media sources and personal experience. It also prevents problems BEFORE they arise. Keeping problems from happening in the first place is far better than wondering what to do about them after they have begun and get serious.
......enjoy!
~Doug