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Hypo Bloodred...Lava...I cant tell

ashlee_kitten

ashlee_kitten

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Its a male. He is unproven, and not sure of his genetics. I think he is pretty but im not sure how much i should pay for him. I have to drive almost 60 miles to get him.

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He appears to most likely be either a hypo (not bloodred) or a very light normal. I'm going with hypo.
 
i'm not an expert on this but i beleive he is a lava. a simalar snakes would cost $130.00 at my local reptile dealer
 
I know, I know!!! Does he have belly checks? I'm betting NOT, and he's a blood/hypo blood. He doesn't look lava at all to me.
 
Oh, but I didn't consider plain hypo...Can you get a nice close up of a few saddles, if he _does_ have belly checks?
 
The saddles are very 'lava like' but coloration is more hypo.
You might be able to tell via the pupil. generally a lava pupil will have more of a ruby hue when a hypo's will be black (although that's not always the case).
 
I agree- now that I go back and look, the saddles almost seem to have that purple border that you see in lava. Still- I'd like to see a saddle close-up.

The belly checks rule out bloodred anything.
 
IMO you'd be lucky to find a random adult lava out there, so I'd pay the price of an adult hypo assuming it's a hypo and then just be super happy if it turned out to be a lava.
What are they asking? What you want to pay would be what's most comfortable to you and the seller. Maybe take a look through the 'For Sale' section to get an idea.
 
But do you want the snake no matter what, or do you want it for its genes? Because you are not ever going to know what it is without breeding trials, if the seller doesn't know.
 
they're taking the best offer given. he doesnt even know what he has. he googled morphs and now thinks its a lava. ill check out the 'for sale' though
 
I want the snake for its beauty, but im a curious person lol i always like to know what i have. and i dont like overpaying ya know?
 
ashlee_kitten said:
i always like to know what i have
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Now that is going to be difficult at best with the seller knowing absolutely nothing about it whatsoever. Looks alone can often times be very deceiving with the countless corn mutations there are today. As to what other heterozygous genetics it may(or may not) also carry would make it impossible to know as far as the possibilities of what it could produce when bred as well. It certainly does look nice, that's for sure, but a good crisp closeup of the saddle borders would certainly help narrow things down more as some others mentioned.

As was previously mentioned, if it has a ruby-red cast to the eyes, and a very milky translucence to the saddle borders, it is very likely a lava, but if the pupils are black, or just shy of being black, I would say hypo type "A" is a more than likely candidate. A good overal belly pic would be fabulous too though..LOL!


~Doug
 
the only ones i intend on breeding are my okeetees so i dont worry about the genetics too much. I just like to know what to call them instead of "It might be..." or "its red and orange" lol im wierd like that
 
Where did the current owner get it from? I ask because if they got it from a petco or petsmart, or just some random neighborhood kid who bred his snakes, it is probably not lava.

I'm thinking it's hypo.
 
ashlee_kitten said:
the only ones i intend on breeding are my okeetees so i dont worry about the genetics too much. I just like to know what to call them instead of "It might be..." or "its red and orange" lol im wierd like that
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Yes, I understand that for sure. I am absolutely ANAL about knowing any and ALL info details on my animals that I work with as well..LOL! :laugh:


cheers, ~Doug
 
Well, you can positively ID lava using the hyper macro technique; taking a photograph under a microscope. The lava scale has an identifiable characteristic compared to hypo.
 
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