Hypos or Weird normals?

[Charlie]

Okay here's the deal:

Bred male lavendar het hypo (proven het hypo previously) to a female hypo (no known hets). The eggs started hatching the other day and this is what I got. Are these normals? or hypos? I attached pictures of both parents and the three babies that have hatched.

 

[Serpwidgets]

The biggest indicator that I've found is the quality of the saddle color, it's a brownish/orange instead of the usual dark brown. They look hypoish so far, but after the first shed it should be easier to tell.

 

[Joejr14]

Those are hibirds.

No seriously they look like hypos. Seems like a high saddle count as well, no?

 

[Serpwidgets]

Those are hibirds.

No seriously they look like hypos. Seems like a high saddle count as well, no?

I got 33-34 saddles on the bottom one. I think it's just shorter ground areas on these.

Definitely hibirds. :sidestep:

 

[Charlie]

Thanks for the input. I haven't actually seen these guys in person. My friend is caring for all my snakes since I am in college. He says they have a purple cast to them in person. Yes, I agree that the first sheds will be revealing.

 

[gardenmum]

Pretty little babies and interesting looking. I agree with Serp about the saddle color look, they look like hypo's to me also, most evident in the coloring of the head pattern section. Will be interesting to see pics of them after their first shed.

 

[cornsnakekid92]

Those are hibirds.

No seriously they look like hypos. Seems like a high saddle count as well, no?

what does a high saddle count mean?

 

[Roy Munson]

what does a high saddle count mean?

The blotches on a corn's dorsal surface (back) are called saddles.

 

[cornsnakekid92]

i know what saddles are but does it imply that it is a hybrid, or a diffrent morph or what?

 

[Roy Munson]

i know what saddles are but does it imply that it is a hybrid, or a diffrent morph or what?

Ha ha. Sorry about that. A high saddle-count may indicate a hybrid, but not always, and not without other physical features being taken into account. Emoryis generally have a higher saddle-count than corns.

 

[Clint Boyer]

The pics at the top of the page do NOT look hypo to me.

Are those the only snakes in that clutch?

 

[Rich Z]

Don't bother trying to make an assessment until they shed their skins. That first skin can really skew the colors quite a bit and confuse you. They will likely be much different looking after they shed.