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Input on this Anery . . . ?

Drizzt80

Drizzt80

Dakota Corns
Okay genetic experts . . . A good friend of mine, who also happens to work in a pet store, got this anery a couple years ago in a shipment. It has turned out developing quite a bit of peach/orange in the neck area instead of the normal yellow you'd expect. My first reaction to the pics were lavender influence which is an obvious possibility, but anyone have different ideas?

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WOW! I've seen some anerys with alot of pink/peach in their saddles, but this is the first time I've seen it in the ground color as well! Whether or not lavender is playing a role in the color can only be guessed at without breeding trials, but it's a possibility. If not, that is one heck of a pastel anery!
 
That's what's got both me and her confused is the amount of peach/pink in the background and not the saddles . . . :shrugs:

D80
 
for some reason i just have this idea... :rolleyes: hypo lavender anery a... (were the hell did that come from) i never seen any anery a or b that pink b4. by the way its beautiful.
 
ok quick question here....

Im no genetics buff but I have often wondered.. :rolleyes:
(let me see if I can get this worded right so my question is clear)

if a Hypo x anery A = Ghost, and Hypo x Anery B = Phantom, why is it that Hypo x lavender = hypo-lavender...
could there not be a seperate form of the hypo lavender that produces the more ghost looking specimen... :shrugs:
and if so could this not be the case with the anery in question?
is it known for sure that this snake was Anery A ?

just wondering...
 
I can imagine that it's possible for it to be only Anery A. I've always wondered what my Bubblegum line would look like if you take away the Amel, the Anery or both. If they were not homo Amel, I think they would look a lot like your critter there.
 
carol said:
I can imagine that it's possible for it to be only Anery A. I've always wondered what my Bubblegum line would look like if you take away the Amel, the Anery or both. If they were not homo Amel, I think they would look a lot like your critter there.
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Ya, those and coral snows/ghosts. :)
 
pastel ghost

i dont beleive theres any lavender in that snake i have had a pastel ghost real similiar,it looks like a extreme specimen of a pastel ghost corn ,but it is a beautifull snake!
 
hediki said:
for some reason i just have this idea... :rolleyes: hypo lavender anery a... (were the hell did that come from) i never seen any anery a or b that pink b4. by the way its beautiful.
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dude............................shut up.
 
I have an odd ghost (hypo A? unknown) with a lot of peach in his ground color. The older he gets, the peachier he becomes. He started out as a normal-looking grayish ghost as a yearling, but now he's very odd looking (at only 2 years old). With every shed, he becomes much more "colorful" and a lot less gray/silver. I wonder if whatever's causing the peach in your anery's ground color is the same thing that's causing it in mine?

Liz
 

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Well the snake in question is not mine, but I may be getting him (Hurley, the owner believes it to be a male, and she's pretty knowledgeable so I believe her.) to do some breeding trials this next season. I have a couple of hypo females that may be ready to breed in the spring, I also have an anery female het amel. I'm trying to think what the best one or two females to breed him to would be. I don't know if my ghost females will be ready or not, possibly if unbrumated.

She works in a pet store, so basically this snake came in with a bunch of corns from a wholesaler. Background on it will be virtually impossible to retrieve. It was purchased as an anery, and as a hatchling looked like a 'normal' anery would look. It's in blue phase right now, but I've asked for a couple of ventral pics from the owner first to confirm (best guess - I do trust her, but I have made mistakes myself as well!) that it's a male and second to see if there's anything funky with the ventral pattern.

D80
 
Looks a lot like my Coral Ghosts

I have a group that was indirectly aquired from Don at SM.

Just thought I would post these pics since they seemed very similar.

According to Don, most if not all, are males when they show this color. That is, when it's a Coral Ghost.

Thanks,
Troy & Angi Dozier
Reptilian Projects

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Well, I am not the person to answer this. Don S. at South Mountain would be the right person I believe.
I can tell you that it (mine) is from his line. After sending him pics of my group, he did his best to explain them to me. Though he did add that he still has a lot of work to do.

(Don, correct me if I am wrong.)

The Coral Ghosts are Ghosts that have the addition of amel, PLUS maybe even a second hypo showing. So, it's like a Coral Snow but with maybe a second hypo enforcing the peach color. But that's speculation at this point.

I bought my group as hatchlings and they changed a great deal.

Troy & Angi Dozier
Reptilian Projects
 
You're thinking coral snow. That's hypo, amel and anery.

If you add amel to a ghost you'd have a pink eyed snake (ghost and amel = coral snow)


It could be a ghost with 2 different hypos and anery?????
 
princess said:
You're thinking coral snow. That's hypo, amel and anery.

If you add amel to a ghost you'd have a pink eyed snake (ghost and amel = coral snow)

It could be a ghost with 2 different hypos and anery?????
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That's what I was saying above. Don tried to explain it to me, as possibily a second hypo being involved. I know it sounded wierd to me, since a Coral Snow looks nothing like my Coral Ghost but is in fact, a Amel/Anery/Hypo all showing at the same time. When I asked then what makes the Coral Ghost, he said "MAYBE" a second hypo also showing. But that he had not had time to prove that out. That's how I understood it anyway.

And to make things more exciting, the males are the ones who get the peachy/coral color. not the females. Though, as you can see my female, next to the male does have a tiny amount of that same color.

Female Coral Ghost on left, Male Coral Ghost on right. Both from the same parents. (Father was a Coral Snow and the Mother was a very light ghost.)
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The more corns I get, the more confused I am. LOL

Troy & Angi Dozier
 
artfan1 said:
That's what I was saying above. Don tried to explain it to me, as possibily a second hypo being involved. I know it sounded wierd to me, since a Coral Snow looks nothing like my Coral Ghost but is in fact, a Amel/Anery/Hypo all showing at the same time. When I asked then what makes the Coral Ghost, he said "MAYBE" a second hypo also showing. But that he had not had time to prove that out. That's how I understood it anyway.
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I think that Don's coral snows are in fact hypo snows. But I'm not convinced that the hypo is directly responsible for the "coral" element of their coloration. It could be a second hypo-like thing, or some other secondary influence. :shrugs:

There have been a few hypo snows posted here over the last year, and the ones that don't come from those lines (although they do appear to be somewhat different from regular snows) just don't have the massive amount of color on them that Don's corals do. Hurley has a pair of the 2004 coral snows from Jim at SWR (where those lines originated) and they are out of this world as far as the amount of color goes.

And to make things more exciting, the males are the ones who get the peachy/coral color. not the females. Though, as you can see my female, next to the male does have a tiny amount of that same color.
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Ya, there are some noticeable differences (at least in certain lines) between male/female ghosts, anerys, hypolavs, and granites, so I'm guessing it's not specifically the hypo gene doing it, but some sex-linked thing we haven't worked out yet. (It could be that it's happening in normals and we just can't see it under all the other reds/oranges.) What's odd is that Hurley's male and female coral snow are pretty much the same intensity as each other.
 
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