poccodiablo
Canadian Member
Does anybody use a iodine solution to sanitize water dishes and such, instead of clorine? If so what strength do you use?
Jeff Robertson
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Iodine Vs. Clorine
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Dazed and Cornfused
Ironically, I was going to ask this same question. I use food grade iodine sanitizer for homebrewing purposes. I have always had great results with it and it is "no-rinse required", meaning that it is safe for human consumption. I used it for water bowls this week for the first time.
I use a product called Iodophor ('Tamed Iodine'). It is a bactericide used in hospitals, dairies and breweries for over 60 years. It is more effective than bleach and it is odorless and tasteless. I use a .5 oz/5 gal water. I set up a sanitizer tub, a clean water rinse tub, and a drip dry rack.
I use a product called Iodophor ('Tamed Iodine'). It is a bactericide used in hospitals, dairies and breweries for over 60 years. It is more effective than bleach and it is odorless and tasteless. I use a .5 oz/5 gal water. I set up a sanitizer tub, a clean water rinse tub, and a drip dry rack.
poccodiablo
Canadian Member
Sweet
Thank you! Well I'm tossing the chlorine and going down to the beerkitz store and getting some food quality iodine instead. The girlfriend has a alergy to chlorine so I'm trying to eliminate it everywhere in the house hold. Chlorine is just nasty stuff.
Jeff
Thank you! Well I'm tossing the chlorine and going down to the beerkitz store and getting some food quality iodine instead. The girlfriend has a alergy to chlorine so I'm trying to eliminate it everywhere in the house hold. Chlorine is just nasty stuff.
Jeff
CowBoyWay
Cocked & Unlocked member
Why brewers use Iodine. hint: taste
when using common household cleaning agents, the brewer should be aware of two things:
1) cleaning solutions may contain perfumes or other odors that may be absorbed into the equipment, and
2) a layer of film may result that should to be rinsed repeatedly with hot water to clear completely off.
If odors and film aren't rinsed away at this point, the finished beer product may taste like them.
Once cleaned, brewing equipment can be allowed to air-dry, a good opportunity to prepare for the next task, sanitization...
Iodine Solution:
For a beer brewer's iodine solution such as iodophor, iodine is combined with other molecules in order to make the iodine safe for kitchen use.
The iodine solution is considerably easier to use than bleach, because it does not require additional rinsing since it has no taste or chemicals that could jeopardize the brewing process.
The proper dilution ratio when using iodophor is effective at a concentration of 12.5 ppm. and at that strength, is an effective sanitizer with a contact time of 60 seconds.
... the cap on a one-liter bottle of iodophor has a capacity of 1/4 ounce.
To obtain an effective sanitizer, no more than 2 capfuls, (1/2 oz.), need be added to 5 gallons of water. This creates a solution at 12.5 ppm.
http://www.allrecipes.com/cb/kh/beverage/sanitize/default.asp
http://brewersconnection.com/Iodophor.html
Iodophor Sanitizer...Directions/ Procedure:
Odorless and Tasteless Sanitizing Solutions
* Add B-T-F IODOPHOR to cool or lukewarm water. Never use hot water.
* 1/4 oz. in 2 1/2 gal. water = 12.5 ppm titratable iodine
* 1/5th oz in 1 gal. water = 25 ppm titratable iodine
* 1/10th oz. in 1 gal water = 12.5 ppm " "
* Metric Equivalents:
1/10th oz. = 3 ml ......
1/5th oz. = 6 ml ......
1 capful = 1 capful
1 gal. = 3.79 L
NOTE: As long as solution is amber color, there is sufficient iodine present to sanitize. Make new solution daily or when color fades.
http://www.natlchem.com/HTML/TECH/pdir.html#btfid
Seems like a feasible choice outside of expense,
but at less than an eighth of a teaspoon per gallon, one would get some pretty good mileage out of a gallon.
I would still be rinsing well though...what the hay.
A commonly used product by Professional herpetologists (exotic animal breeders, in general) and hobbyist's is a product called "Novalsan" which is a "2% Chlorehexadine Solution" made by "Ft. Dodge".
It is used as a virucidal, bacterial, fungicidal sanitizing solution.
Virosan is another popular brand.
when using common household cleaning agents, the brewer should be aware of two things:
1) cleaning solutions may contain perfumes or other odors that may be absorbed into the equipment, and
2) a layer of film may result that should to be rinsed repeatedly with hot water to clear completely off.
If odors and film aren't rinsed away at this point, the finished beer product may taste like them.
Once cleaned, brewing equipment can be allowed to air-dry, a good opportunity to prepare for the next task, sanitization...
Iodine Solution:
For a beer brewer's iodine solution such as iodophor, iodine is combined with other molecules in order to make the iodine safe for kitchen use.
The iodine solution is considerably easier to use than bleach, because it does not require additional rinsing since it has no taste or chemicals that could jeopardize the brewing process.
The proper dilution ratio when using iodophor is effective at a concentration of 12.5 ppm. and at that strength, is an effective sanitizer with a contact time of 60 seconds.
... the cap on a one-liter bottle of iodophor has a capacity of 1/4 ounce.
To obtain an effective sanitizer, no more than 2 capfuls, (1/2 oz.), need be added to 5 gallons of water. This creates a solution at 12.5 ppm.
http://www.allrecipes.com/cb/kh/beverage/sanitize/default.asp
http://brewersconnection.com/Iodophor.html
Iodophor Sanitizer...Directions/ Procedure:
Odorless and Tasteless Sanitizing Solutions
* Add B-T-F IODOPHOR to cool or lukewarm water. Never use hot water.
* 1/4 oz. in 2 1/2 gal. water = 12.5 ppm titratable iodine
* 1/5th oz in 1 gal. water = 25 ppm titratable iodine
* 1/10th oz. in 1 gal water = 12.5 ppm " "
* Metric Equivalents:
1/10th oz. = 3 ml ......
1/5th oz. = 6 ml ......
1 capful = 1 capful
1 gal. = 3.79 L
NOTE: As long as solution is amber color, there is sufficient iodine present to sanitize. Make new solution daily or when color fades.
http://www.natlchem.com/HTML/TECH/pdir.html#btfid
Seems like a feasible choice outside of expense,
but at less than an eighth of a teaspoon per gallon, one would get some pretty good mileage out of a gallon.
I would still be rinsing well though...what the hay.
A commonly used product by Professional herpetologists (exotic animal breeders, in general) and hobbyist's is a product called "Novalsan" which is a "2% Chlorehexadine Solution" made by "Ft. Dodge".
It is used as a virucidal, bacterial, fungicidal sanitizing solution.
Virosan is another popular brand.
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CowBoyWay
Cocked & Unlocked member
Other effective disinfectents....f.y.i.
Nolvasan disinfectant
"Nolvasan is an Unscented 2% Chlorehexadine Solution that was created and tested at the Fort Dodge Animal research laboratories in Ft Dodge, IA. "
"Nolvasan" (chlorhexidine diacetate),
the only"EPA-registered" chlorhexidine disinfectant,
works against at least 60 different bacteria, fungi, yeasts,and viruses.
Nolvasan is non-corrosive, has minimal to no skin irritation, and retains antimicrobial activity in the presence of organic matter.
Nolvasan's unique binding to skin proteins provides residual activity for as long as two days.
(Many other companies are manufacturing a "cloned" type product with the same active ingredient.)
Another effective product for environmental sanitation is:
"Virkon S" Disinfectant by Farnam Is a Broad-spectrum disinfectant for use in livestock containment and producer areas.
Highly effective against bacteria, viruses & fungi… for the cleaning and disinfecting surfaces, equipment and instruments.
Powder mixes into solution quickly and remains stable up to 7 days. 10 lb pail makes 123 gallons solution. Light lemon scent. "
(Big in meat, (poultry) production circles...Mouse house/ room environmental "clean up" applications...)
http://petsupplies4less.com/pages/Bird_Products.html
Bleach is not entirely "idiot proof" , if you will, as it will leave toxic residues if rinsed insufficiently.
Relatively close to idiot proof, but not quite.
Details, details, the devils in the details.
One should probably not use "Dawn" or other ammonia containing dish washing detergents in conjunction with bleach as it will produce a dangerous chemical reaction and produce a "off-gas" that is dangerous for you and ones Corn Snake.
A safe widely available dish soap in the U.S. is "Joy", it has no ammonia in its formulation.
A safe non-toxic option would be 30-60 drops of Grapefruit seed extract (G.S.E.) per gallon of water for a very effective natural approach to disinfecting.
Rinse it off, if your in the mood.
A 50/ 50 blend of white vinegar and standard strength Hydrogen peroxide is a good choice for another non-toxic disinfectant. University studies support the fact that it is an excellent disinfectant.
Again it’s all about contact times. It doesn't store well as the peroxide will break down , so its best to mix fresh batches on "Cleaning day".
Try adding twenty, thirty drops of G.S.E., to make some institutional, extra strength, voodoo juice/ surface sanitizer..
Aah, the voodoo that you do, will "kill da bugs mahn"
Straight 3% hydrogen peroxide
( H2O2) or even a 50/50 with water
(H2O) in a spray bottle can be effective too.
Hydrogen peroxide breaks down into oxygen and water when it decomposes, thus is very safe residue wise (there is none) compared to other disinfectant choices.
imho.
:~)
Nolvasan disinfectant
"Nolvasan is an Unscented 2% Chlorehexadine Solution that was created and tested at the Fort Dodge Animal research laboratories in Ft Dodge, IA. "
"Nolvasan" (chlorhexidine diacetate),
the only"EPA-registered" chlorhexidine disinfectant,
works against at least 60 different bacteria, fungi, yeasts,and viruses.
Nolvasan is non-corrosive, has minimal to no skin irritation, and retains antimicrobial activity in the presence of organic matter.
Nolvasan's unique binding to skin proteins provides residual activity for as long as two days.
(Many other companies are manufacturing a "cloned" type product with the same active ingredient.)
Another effective product for environmental sanitation is:
"Virkon S" Disinfectant by Farnam Is a Broad-spectrum disinfectant for use in livestock containment and producer areas.
Highly effective against bacteria, viruses & fungi… for the cleaning and disinfecting surfaces, equipment and instruments.
Powder mixes into solution quickly and remains stable up to 7 days. 10 lb pail makes 123 gallons solution. Light lemon scent. "
(Big in meat, (poultry) production circles...Mouse house/ room environmental "clean up" applications...)
http://petsupplies4less.com/pages/Bird_Products.html
Bleach is not entirely "idiot proof" , if you will, as it will leave toxic residues if rinsed insufficiently.
Relatively close to idiot proof, but not quite.
Details, details, the devils in the details.
One should probably not use "Dawn" or other ammonia containing dish washing detergents in conjunction with bleach as it will produce a dangerous chemical reaction and produce a "off-gas" that is dangerous for you and ones Corn Snake.
A safe widely available dish soap in the U.S. is "Joy", it has no ammonia in its formulation.
A safe non-toxic option would be 30-60 drops of Grapefruit seed extract (G.S.E.) per gallon of water for a very effective natural approach to disinfecting.
Rinse it off, if your in the mood.
A 50/ 50 blend of white vinegar and standard strength Hydrogen peroxide is a good choice for another non-toxic disinfectant. University studies support the fact that it is an excellent disinfectant.
Again it’s all about contact times. It doesn't store well as the peroxide will break down , so its best to mix fresh batches on "Cleaning day".
Try adding twenty, thirty drops of G.S.E., to make some institutional, extra strength, voodoo juice/ surface sanitizer..
Aah, the voodoo that you do, will "kill da bugs mahn"
Straight 3% hydrogen peroxide
( H2O2) or even a 50/50 with water
(H2O) in a spray bottle can be effective too.
Hydrogen peroxide breaks down into oxygen and water when it decomposes, thus is very safe residue wise (there is none) compared to other disinfectant choices.
imho.
:~)
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