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is my corn an adult?

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dirtbiker250

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Hey guys my corn snake is alittle over a year old i belive not sure because i got it at a pet shop and you can never tell with them but iv owned him for a year he is probably around 36" give some take some and 136grams would you guys consider him an adult corn snake he's a normal and feeding on weaned mice. He's my first snake so i really dont know next im getting a house snake,another corn,or posibly a columbian boa idk yet. thanks
 
I don't think I'd consider it an "adult" yet...certainly not full grown at only 136 grams, if that's what you mean.
 
Corns hit maturity at around three years of age, so no, you have a couple of years to go yet.

As with humans, "adulthood" in Corns is linked to age, not size.
 
bitsy said:
Corns hit maturity at around three years of age, so no, you have a couple of years to go yet.

As with humans, "adulthood" in Corns is linked to age, not size.
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According to Kathy's book adulthood is indeed linked to size rather than age. Where did you read that tis the other way around? I like to consider all info before latching onto one concept as fact.
 
well what i mean is sexual maturaty i know that at 136grams he has alota muscle to build but i wanted to know just because of the face that the feeding chart for what to feed your snakes on weight in grams he's at the top of the chart so i just thought that that meant he was an adualt.
 
If he's 130+ grams, and he's actually a he, then for all intents and purposes, he's an adult. He can reproduce. Of course, if you read somewhere that adult corns can handle 50g mice, then you'll have to adjust your thinking...
 
At 36 inches your snake is an adult and capable of reproducing. Maturity in Corn Snakes is determined by size, not age. Corn Snakes have reproduced at as little as 9 months of age. If your snake is a male, he'd be capable of reproducing at half his current size - I've had plenty of 18 inch males produce offspring. Most of the time I like to wait until females are 36 inches or longer (although some females never get this big). I've had quite a few 36 inch females lay eggs at 18 months of age.

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136 grams seems a bit light for a fully grown adult corn... :S Maybe that's just me... I always figured when they got to about 300 grams they were considered "full grown adults"
 
thanks and once again im talking sexual maturity i know that he will grow in size but i wana just get a ball park range for how long it would take to be abil to breed him
 
According to Kathy's book adulthood is indeed linked to size rather than age. Where did you read that tis the other way around?
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I didn't realise there was any other view. Must re-read Kathy's book - what page are you looking at? Personally, I wouldn't view a three foot long 10 month old Corn Snake as being "adult".

Females shouldn't be bred below 3 years old, as they may not have developed sufficintly to withstand egg formation & laying, even if they're the size of an adult. This is a pretty well-established guide, albeit that some will reach maturity before or after three years of age.

Males can be bred earlier than 3 years old as they don't have the physical rigours that the females go through. I've certainly known of a 10 month old male that mated with an adult female and fathered a successful clutch.

I guess it depends how you're defining "adult" and why you want to know.
 
Maybe I mis-read. In her book it says the minimum breeding size is 30 inches for females. Says nothing about age anywhere. I don't have my book infront of me, I think it may have fallen apart (time for a new one!) I know the cover and four front pages have been lost, I'll check and get back to you on the page number.
 
How many different view points, there must be...... I think roughly 36 inches ,136 gram seems a bit skinny. But if it is a male, I would think it would be able to reproduce.

Is it an adult at 1 year of age???? Questionable... 14-15 year old humans can reproduce but we dont consider them adults... So I think this is a personal view.

If you mean reproduce(and it is a male) then yes. If you mean mature, then no. (mature, to me, means grown to average amounts, in this case 3,3,3 rule).

My 2 cents.....
 
Maybe I mis-read. In her book it says the minimum breeding size is 30 inches for females. Says nothing about age anywhere.
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Hang on carnivorouszoo - you're quite right, page 15 of the new version: "Adulthood is positively a factor of size, not age, in Corn Snakes." It's an interesting view (she says, getting splinters from the fence she's sitting on!).

I think the 3 years/300g/3 feet long guide for females is a good one to go by unless you're experienced in dealing with the potential complications of breeding. Also I'd have males around the same size as females in case mating gets rough (although that might not be why the OP was originally asking!).
 
Thanks Bitsy :) I don't think that a female is "adult" at 1 year (my one yr amel is only 26 inches). How to tell exactly I have no clue. I just found this really interesting! Very much a learning experience.
 
well i was looking to breed it in the future but mostly it was just out of curiosity that i wanted to know i dont yet have a female to breed him too so it might now be for another 2-3 yrs anyways. my plans are to at that time try out corn snake breeding and if all goes well the following year move to king snakes. Then years after all that start into boa's but thats far into the future. thanks guys and i will keep you updated on what im doing
 
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