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Is this typical of both males and females??

Cornflake1

Cornflake1

The Crazy Snake Lady! :-)
Hi there!

I've also put this in the behaviour forum, but think maybe it should have been in here!??? Anyway....

I've been meaning to ask about this for a while.
I had my oldest corn sexed as a female, twice actually and I was ready to breed her this year.
When I put my males in with her, they freaked out and were wizzing around the viv like lightning!! and the 'female' was doing the jerking movements and the chasing.
So what i'm asking is,
Is it just the males that do the chasing and the jerky movements or both?
Is there chance that my female is actually male?
Oh and another thing. When I first put the male in, the 'female' lifted up her tail, exposing her vent and either side of the vent two yellow/gooey spots appeared??
Thanks in advance for any replies!
 
There's always a chance that your female is actually a male, but if she has been sexed twice, the chance gets smaller of course.
I'm not really a big specialist, but I can tell you that my female that always joins in with the jerking movements, so I guess that's a normal female thing to do (unless I got an abnormal female :D)
About the spots you saw, I heard something about that once...can't remember what it was but at that time I was discussing a female. Maybe someone who knows better can give more info about this.
So if I'm correct, yours probably is female indeed.
Did you see actual mating?
 
Thanks Kali, It will bw interesting to hear what others have to say on this matter too then! As for mating, nope! The males wouldn't go near her. I've never seen any of my snakes move so fast! They were desparate to get out!! There was no sign of aggression on both parts but she kept chasing him and he really didn't want to know!
 
Ever put her in with a known female? That seems like the most logical solution? If she is male, she will attempt to breed (in season) and if she is a she, no harm done.
 
My known female has bred already this year and I didn't want to risk putting her in if she was to get pregnant again and I don't know anybody else with an adult female..... :-(
 
All you have to do is put them in together, you do not have to actually let them breed. Just keep a close eye on them while they are together. If the one tries to breed the other, keep a close watch, until you actually see the hemipenes if you do see hemipenes then pull it out, before they can actually lock up.
 
Ok i'll give that a try....She is in shed at the mo so will wait until she's done with that.... Any ideas on the female/males yellow gooey stuff from the vent???
 
What happened to the gooey yellow stuff? Did it come out of the vent and transfer to the medium they were being tried on,(Hopefully paper towel or similar medium?) or did it suck back up into the vent?
 
Well it just made an appearance (one at either end of the vent) then went back in again. I've been told it could possibly be sperm plugs?? which would then definately prove male!! :)
 
It was more then likely just muscle tissue, if it pulled back in to the vent. It sounds like you have a female, as the males hemipenes would have been a pink, or dark red. But it may have just not extended them out all the way, too.

There is a way to count scales, from vent to tip of tail, but it's tough to do accurately. You will need a shed, or GOOD pic to do this, and I am not sure what the counts are. But you can read about it here: http://cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20400&highlight=scale+count

Good Luck!!
 
Today I put my known female in with my poss female corn. As i had her sexed twice as a female the males i put in with her didn't want to know and they were both whizzing around the tank with the poss female doing alot of jerking. Anyway when put with the known female. The movements were very slow, the poss female was showing interest and following the known female around. It then mounted the known female, lifting his/her tail, whilst all the time making sure he/she was fully on top.
This is a very different result from before so I am going to assume that this snake is actually male, would you all agree?
Thanks guys! :D
 
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