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Keeping the "sun" in Sunglows

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DougM

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I'm thinking a few years down the road...

I have a pair of sunglows and a pair of granites het hypo. I know that sunglows are simple recessive but resulted from selective breeding. I would like to make fires with the sunglows without losing the "lack of white" from the sunglows.

I'm guessing that the "lack of white" isn't tied to the amel genes. Am I right in thinking that I'll screw up the selective breeding of the sunglows by crossing in the granites?
 
The way I heard it, sunglow isn't really a trait you can accurately predict in corns. If you have several gens of sunglow ancestry it might be easier, but who knows what might develop as babies age... If you bred it into granite, my thinking is you'd end up with normals het amel granite, and if you bred those together, you'd end up with something similar to a whiteout... so probably not the result you're looking for. Of course I've been wrong before.
 
Whoops, didn't see the hypo.

CornCalc says you'd get normals het Anery, Amel, Diffused 50% poss het. Hypo.

If you bred those together (assuming both are het hypo) you'd get all this craziness:
27 / 256 Diffused 66% poss het. Anery, Amel, Hypo
27 / 256 Anery 66% poss het. Amel, Diffused, Hypo
27 / 256 Amel 66% poss het. Anery, Diffused, Hypo
81 / 256 Normal 66% poss het. Anery, Amel, Diffused, Hypo
27 / 256 Hypo 66% poss het. Anery, Amel, Diffused
9 / 256 Fire ( Amel, Diffused ) 66% poss het. Anery, Hypo
9 / 256 Snow ( Amel, Anery ) 66% poss het. Diffused, Hypo
9 / 256 Granite ( Anery, Diffused ) 66% poss het. Amel, Hypo
9 / 256 Ghost ( Anery, Hypo ) 66% poss het. Amel, Diffused
9 / 256 Hypo Amel ( Amel, Hypo ) 66% poss het. Anery, Diffused
9 / 256 Hypo Diffused ( Diffused, Hypo ) 66% poss het. Anery, Amel
3 / 256 Avalanche ( Amel, Anery, Diffused ) 66% poss het. Hypo
3 / 256 Coral Snow ( Amel, Anery, Hypo ) 66% poss het. Diffused
3 / 256 Hypo Granite (Ghost Bloodred) ( Anery, Diffused, Hypo ) 66% poss het. Amel
3 / 256 Fire, Hypo ( Amel, Diffused, Hypo ) 66% poss het. Anery
1 / 256 Coral Avalanche ( Amel, Anery, Diffused, Hypo )
 
If you want to make bright fires, I would recommend getting a pair of bright bloods (het amel if you can find them) and breed those to your Sunglows. That would be the best way to make them in my opinion.
If you breed Granites, you'd be introducing Anery in the line (if it's not there already) which would give you less of a chance of Fires and more results (as Pepper showed you there) that you aren't looking for.
You might also try Hypo Bloods, which would allow you to make Hypo Fires, which could make them brighter.
 
Trust me, fires can be made without white...Don's done it and that's where this baby came from. So, I'd also, like Suzy, suggest the bright bloods.

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I would suggest starting with one of your sunglows and a nice bright fire. That way, the F1 will at least be some beautiful amels or sunglows (depending on the amount of white). Then breed the F1 together for the gorgeous fiery sunglows in the F2. But that's just how I'd do it. I'm sure there's multiple right answers to this question.
 
I'm liking all the possibilities that may come to pass in the future. I may breed the granite het hypo to the sunglow and then cross the F1s together to see what pops out. I know fire is a possibility. I was just wondering how easy/hard it was to keep the lack of white of the sunglows.
 
DougM said:
I'm liking all the possibilities that may come to pass in the future. I may breed the granite het hypo to the sunglow and then cross the F1s together to see what pops out. I know fire is a possibility. I was just wondering how easy/hard it was to keep the lack of white of the sunglows.
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Basically, what you need to do with the F1's is to hold back the babies with the thinnest, or no borders. That'll help ensure a lack of white.
 
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