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kiln dried pine, safe or not for snakes?

Okay, so I've heard conflicting reviews on using kiln-dried pine for snake substrate. Some people say it's an absolute no-no, others say they've been using it with no troubles for a long time, and it's perfectly safe. So which is it? Is kiln-dried pine okay for snake substrate, or is it not? any input would be greatly appreciated. thanks =]
 
my question is more out of curiousity out of the debate between " its safe", "its not safe", ya know. i dont currently use pine, i just wish someone would set the record straight haha.
 
The kiln drying will not remove the oils, which are the problem with pine shavings. They will get dry and sterile, but will still contain the toxins which are dangerous to smaller animals.
 
I know that some people on Ball-Pythons.net have their BPs on kiln dried pine, but I know nothing about it with corns.

Aspen doesn't cost much for a snake since they don't totally soil it every week like rodents, so stick with it.
 
I'm pretty sure that no matter where you ask this question you will receive the same few answers.

You may have to think for yourself on this one.
 
ive been using a cellulose product that is the consitentcy and appearence of soft cardboard-like popcoarn balls. ive had no trouble with it yet. its cheap, effective, apparently safe, and readily available. i know aspen is ideal, but i have to drive over an hour to get it is the main issue. so the debate over kiln-dried pine rages on i suppose as far as if its a safe substrate. one day it will take the place of "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" haha.
 
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